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Scott - Did you finish the video(s) on how not to do high speed passes for SSF? Thanks! Best Regards, Dave Most of the work I did for the SSF is available on their website http://www.soaringsafety.org/ Under the links "FLIGHT TRAINING VIDEOS" and "FLIGHT SAFETY VIDEOS". I worked with Rich Carlson and Bob Wander to produce 9 "FLIGHT SAFETY" videos each showing a situation that has been known to end badly. I also produced 1 "FLIGHT TRAINING" video demonstrating/describing "How to approach/land in a crosswind." I remember you (Dave) contacting me, asking if Condor could be used to produce a video of a high-speed low pass gone wrong. I assured you it could, I remember doing the flying and recording a Condor Replay of a failed high-speed low pass (glider stalls and spins as it attempts the reversing turn after pulling up and losing airspeed), and I sort of remember getting back to you (Dave) with "what do you think about this?", but I don't remember the effort going any further than that. I remember the request as coming from you (Dave), not from the SSF, but you (Dave) had probably seen the other SSF videos and were suggesting that a LOW PASS GONE BAD video be adding to he mix. I just searched my Condor folders and can't find any remnant of the Replay I claim above to have produced. Producing these videos turns out to be quite a bit of work. 1) A perfect example of what is being demonstrated needs to be flown. This often takes dozens/scores of attempts. 2) The perfect example is stored as a Condor Replay 3) The Replay, or segments of it, need to be captured using video capture software, e.g. FRAPS to produce an actual video format, e.g. .wmv. A Condor Replay is not actually a video, it is a parameter file that Condor uses to generate video output internally. A Replay (.rpy) can only be played back using Condor) 4) The video captured by FRAPS then needs to be edited into the final product using software like Windows Movie Maker. Anyone with a lot of time, the required software, and the requisite skills can produce a similar video. ) Scott Manley - 3167160CFI |
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Can I just ask a basic question here - what is the purpose of the "low pass" and how does it further or add to the flight?
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On Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 3:06:50 PM UTC-7, Tom wrote:
Can I just ask a basic question here - what is the purpose of the "low pass" and how does it further or add to the flight? Thanks Tom You can also ask "What is the purpose of flying XCountry?" or "What is the purpose of flying an airplane with no engine?" My answer to your question and my two questions is "It's fun." We could stop having fun because its unsafe or teach everyone how to have fun more safely. As previous posters have mentioned, stopping people doing a low pass may not be the best way. It's like trying to teach kids abstinence. Useless. |
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It's very hard to see the various forms of wildlife lurking near the edges of the runway from pattern altitude. A low pass gives you a better idea what may be lurking. Also good practice for an outlanding where you can't tell the surface condition of the chosen field. It's also a great way to get the message across that you are about to land to lollygaggers on the runway who don't have their radios turned on. Other benefits are testing the possible wind gradient.
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In Minden it is a great way to see where the down part of the wave has set up.
On Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 2:06:50 PM UTC-8, Tom wrote: Can I just ask a basic question here - what is the purpose of the "low pass" and how does it further or add to the flight? Thanks Tom |
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It is joyful, inspirational and beautiful when done well. And it feels really good. And somewhat dangerous. A Personal call.
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At 22:06 22 February 2018, Tom wrote:
Can I just ask a basic question here - what is the purpose of the "low pass" and how does it further or add to the flight? Thanks Tom Hi Tom, Answer: nothing. Glider pilots seem to have a fascination with seeing how close they can get to the ground .. preferably with someone watching, either in person or more often these days online, which is a real problem and I think pretty unprofessional & foolish. I naively thought that gliding was more professional than this but I'm realising now that gliding has always had it's individualistic cowboy element, and more concerning is that today's juniors are being encouraged to emulate this .. and the internet is going to ensure it. I'm seriously considering giving up instructing after 17 years because I'm sick & tired of the supposed "safety culture" we bang on about endlessly here in Australia being totally undermined by this undisciplined and unnecessary "hooning" as we call it. |
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At 22:06 22 February 2018, Tom wrote:
Can I just ask a basic question here - what is the purpose of the "low pass" and how does it further or add to the flight? Thanks Tom Hi Tom, Answer: nothing. Glider pilots seem to have a fascination with seeing how close they can get to the ground .. preferably with someone watching, either in person or more often these days online, which is a real problem and I think pretty unprofessional & foolish. I naively thought that gliding was more professional than this but I'm realising now that gliding has always had it's individualistic cowboy element, and more concerning is that today's juniors are being encouraged to emulate this .. and the internet is going to ensure it. I'm seriously considering giving up instructing after 17 years because I'm sick & tired of the supposed "safety culture" we bang on about endlessly here in Australia being totally undermined by this undisciplined and unnecessary "hooning" as we call it. |
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On Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 2:06:50 PM UTC-8, Tom wrote:
Can I just ask a basic question here - what is the purpose of the "low pass" and how does it further or add to the flight? Thanks Tom Hi Tom: Low passes can be fun to fly and are exciting to watch. They also have potential to end up very badly. I once did a low pass 20-30 years ago at Minden and pulled up into severe down air. That was not as much fun, never done a low pass on wave day again. One must always fly within your skill set and energy is life for a glider pilot. One burns a bit of energy in a low pass so you had better know what you are doing. |
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On Friday, February 23, 2018 at 10:21:40 AM UTC-5, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
I once did a low pass 20-30 years ago at Minden and pulled up into severe down air. That was not as much fun, never done a low pass on wave day again. This reminds me of the millions of people that have found out the hard way; that having intercourse may result in pregnancy. |
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