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Mid-air collision
Mid-air collision
http://www.townhall.com/news/us/2007...wash;_all_live Somebdy must have said their prayers before takeof. Three people, no serious injury or loss of life. Loss of one craft in the bay, the other landed safely. Flash |
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On Nov 20, 8:57 pm, "flash" wrote:
Mid-air collision http://www.townhall.com/news/us/2007..._collide_in_wa... Somebdy must have said their prayers before takeof. Three people, no serious injury or loss of life. Loss of one craft in the bay, the other landed safely. Flash Paper had a picture of the one that landed - total damage was the rear end of the wheel pants broken off. Amazing! Harry K |
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:10:05 -0800 (PST), Harry K
wrote: On Nov 20, 8:57 pm, "flash" wrote: Mid-air collision http://www.townhall.com/news/us/2007..._collide_in_wa... Somebdy must have said their prayers before takeof. Three people, no serious injury or loss of life. Loss of one craft in the bay, the other landed safely. Paper had a picture of the one that landed - total damage was the rear end of the wheel pants broken off. Amazing! A bit more than that...some wrinkled skin on the belly, and one account said the plane is sitting a little cockeyed on the ground. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ecrash21m.html Happened right on one of my usual sightseeing routes. Makes you think.... Ron Wanttaja |
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"Ron Wanttaja" wrote A bit more than that...some wrinkled skin on the belly, and one account said the plane is sitting a little cockeyed on the ground. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ecrash21m.html Happened right on one of my usual sightseeing routes. Makes you think.... Yeah, I'll bet! Keep those peepers open and looking around, huh? One thing I have been wondering, is what caused the guy with so little damage come down out of the sky? It seems like he should have continued to land at the airport, too. Am I missing something? -- Jim in NC |
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:10:09 -0500, "Morgans" wrote:
"Ron Wanttaja" wrote A bit more than that...some wrinkled skin on the belly, and one account said the plane is sitting a little cockeyed on the ground. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ecrash21m.html Happened right on one of my usual sightseeing routes. Makes you think.... Yeah, I'll bet! Keep those peepers open and looking around, huh? Interesting thing is, I've had a pass or two in that area, myself. It's sort of a funnel between the Class D at Tacoma Narrows and the Sea-Tac Class B. Thun Field (where the Cessna landed) is a very popular destination, and if you're heading south over Puget Sound on your way there, you're going to go feet dry at Commencement Bay. One thing I have been wondering, is what caused the guy with so little damage come down out of the sky? It seems like he should have continued to land at the airport, too. Am I missing something? Haven't heard, yet, an interview with the pilot who ditched. Witnesses report the plane circling on the way down. Given full control of the plane, he should have been able to glide back to dry land or at least immediately offshore rather than out a ways. There are LOTS of places to set down around Commencement Bay, *if* you've got control of the aircraft. If the local media is accurately reporting, the plane ditched towards the western part of the bay, which is the most urban but still has a pretty-good-sized park. (Do 'Commencement Bay' on Google Earth, and you'll see all the wharves and stuff on the south and east side of the bay. The local media is showing the setdown point right about where the Google Earth marker for the Bay is.) I suspect the pilot had difficulty controlling the aircraft in roll/yaw. Sounds like he had pitch control, as the witnesses report a near-perfect setdown in the water (tail touched down first). When you consider the Cessna obviously hit the Citabria with its landing gear, it was slightly higher and probably hit the wing or vertical tail of the Citabria. By all reports, the guy did a damn good job setting it down. Ron Wanttaja |
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:31:32 -0800, Ron Wanttaja
wrote: ...When you consider the Cessna obviously hit the Citabria with its landing gear, it was slightly higher and probably hit the wing or vertical tail of the Citabria. Report on rec.aviation.piloting says the Citabria lost its vertical tail.... Ron Wanttaja |
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On 2007-11-21 21:10:09 -0800, "Morgans" said:
"Ron Wanttaja" wrote A bit more than that...some wrinkled skin on the belly, and one account said the plane is sitting a little cockeyed on the ground. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ecrash21m.html Happened right on one of my usual sightseeing routes. Makes you think.... Yeah, I'll bet! Keep those peepers open and looking around, huh? One thing I have been wondering, is what caused the guy with so little damage come down out of the sky? It seems like he should have continued to land at the airport, too. Am I missing something? Maybe not, but the Citabria was missing its vertical stabilizer. :-) The water there was 44 degrees and the 70 year old woman does not swim, so they were very lucky indeed. The boaters who rescued them got them out of their wet clothes and wrapped in dry towels immediately, which probably saved their lives. As Ron noted, this area is a funnel for east-west traffic. Really, it is a narrow corridor only a few miles across between McChord's class D, Tacoma Narrows' class D, and SeaTac and Boeing Field's airspace. The effect is as if the FAA erected a 40 mile long 10,000 foot high wall and left this tiny hole through it. They will blame the pilots for failing to see and avoid, of course, but that will be like some highway department suddenly narrowing a 16 lane freeway to a single lane and then blaming all the accidents and congestion on "bad drivers." Come to think of it, Washington State's DOT is like that... -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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"C J Campbell" wrote Maybe not, but the Citabria was missing its vertical stabilizer. :-) Well, that makes more sense. The early reports given here said that the only damage was a dent and bent landing gear. No fin and rudder would make it more difficult to come out of a spin, I guess! g -- Jim in NC |
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"Morgans" wrote in message
... "C J Campbell" wrote Maybe not, but the Citabria was missing its vertical stabilizer. :-) Well, that makes more sense. The early reports given here said that the only damage was a dent and bent landing gear. That was the damage to the Cessna that landed at an airport. -- Geoff The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate. |
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Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe wrote:
"Morgans" wrote in message ... "C J Campbell" wrote Maybe not, but the Citabria was missing its vertical stabilizer. :-) Well, that makes more sense. The early reports given here said that the only damage was a dent and bent landing gear. That was the damage to the Cessna that landed at an airport. If the Cessna is claimed to have a "bent landing gear", I'd real quick go looking at the gear mount area of the fuselage. That steel leg can take a lot more impact that the aluminum fusleage. |
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