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Alternate Intersection Name in Brackets?
Hi all. What does it mean when there's an alternate intersection name in
brackets in the new AOPA Flight Planner? As an example, there's an intersection just south of the Wash D.C. Class B where V286 and V16 cross. It's called TAPPA but the new AOPA flight planner also has [VIPKE] in brackets. It also chose to highlight VIPKE on the enroute map as opposed to TAPPA. The Jepp enroute chart simply has this as TAPPA with no alternate names. I also can't seem to find this symbology anywhere else on the Jepp chart. Is VIPKE a high-altitude/jet route name for the same intersection? Anyone know? Clicking on the intersection yields no clues. Thanks, Marco Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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In a previous article, "Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net said:
brackets in the new AOPA Flight Planner? As an example, there's an intersection just south of the Wash D.C. Class B where V286 and V16 cross. It's called TAPPA but the new AOPA flight planner also has [VIPKE] in brackets. It also chose to highlight VIPKE on the enroute map as opposed to TAPPA. The Jepp enroute chart simply has this as TAPPA with no alternate names. I also can't seem to find this symbology anywhere else on the Jepp chart. In my FAA data, TAPPA and VIPKE are both classified as "REP-PT" with almost the same latitude and longitude (37.97019333, 76.8446166 versus 37.970336111, 76.844478). However, in the DAFIF data TAPPA is classifed as "NAMED FIX" and VIPKE is classified as "UNNAMED, CHARTED OR COMPUTER NAV FIX". No idea what the difference is, but I'm guessing that VIPKE isn't used for much. -- Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ If men are from Mars and women are from Venus, there's going to be one big-ass fight over where to set the thermostat. -- Jim Rosenberg |
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Thanks Paul. Can you elaborate on your source of "FAA data?" And what does
DAFIF stand for? Sounds like a nice source for some techie aviation data... I did some more research since I posted and Flight Explorer includes VIPKE as a high-altitude fix when I toggle the fix display between high and low. I know it's not scientific but I don't have a high altitude chart handy to verify. If it IS a high-altitude fix, seems like a low-severity defect on the AOPA Flight Planner to choose VIPKE over TAPPA given a planned altitude of 8,000 feet. Marco "Paul Tomblin" wrote in message ... In my FAA data, TAPPA and VIPKE are both classified as "REP-PT" with almost the same latitude and longitude (37.97019333, 76.8446166 versus 37.970336111, 76.844478). However, in the DAFIF data TAPPA is classifed as "NAMED FIX" and VIPKE is classified as "UNNAMED, CHARTED OR COMPUTER NAV FIX". No idea what the difference is, but I'm guessing that VIPKE isn't used for much. -- Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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In a previous article, "Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net said:
Thanks Paul. Can you elaborate on your source of "FAA data?" And what does DAFIF stand for? Sounds like a nice source for some techie aviation data... I get a CD from the FAA every 56 days with all the current data on it. Information on how to order it is buried very deep on the FAA web site, but I think if you look for "ATA-100" you'll eventually find it. Or if you don't want to pay for it, contact me via email and I'll tell you where to ftp it for free. DAFIF is the Digital Aeronautical Flight Information File, which comes from the National Imagery and Mapping Agency, a US military agency. It's free, and it's available for ftp every 28 days (Start at http://www.nima.mil and look under "Products and Services" for Aeronautical and from there to the "Aeronautical Information Home Page"). It covers the entire world, but not in great detail - they don't worry about airports that they can't land an A-10 at. Both sets of information obviously come from old mainframes, and it's a bitch to parse, and they're none too careful about being consistent. Basically if all you're worried about is the US, the FAA data is better. If you're worried about the rest of the world, the DAFIF data is your only option, unless you're like me and have a cadre of people typing in information and making it available for your database generators. Actually, depending on your needs, your best option might be be to use gpsbabel to convert data from my GPX waypoint generator to whatever format you need, because then you get to take advantage of all the work I put into converting and maintaining my data. http://navaid.com/GPX/ -- Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ The people here have other bones to pick -- possibly including yours. -- Mike Andrews |
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Paul Tomblin wrote:
In my FAA data, TAPPA and VIPKE are both classified as "REP-PT" with almost the same latitude and longitude (37.97019333, 76.8446166 versus 37.970336111, 76.844478). However, in the DAFIF data TAPPA is classifed as "NAMED FIX" and VIPKE is classified as "UNNAMED, CHARTED OR COMPUTER NAV FIX". In case you're wondering, the distance between those 2 points is 65 feet, 7 inches, or just less than the wingspan of a CRJ-200. |
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Marco Leon wrote:
Hi all. What does it mean when there's an alternate intersection name in brackets in the new AOPA Flight Planner? As an example, there's an intersection just south of the Wash D.C. Class B where V286 and V16 cross. It's called TAPPA but the new AOPA flight planner also has [VIPKE] in brackets. It also chose to highlight VIPKE on the enroute map as opposed to TAPPA. The Jepp enroute chart simply has this as TAPPA with no alternate names. I also can't seem to find this symbology anywhere else on the Jepp chart. Is VIPKE a high-altitude/jet route name for the same intersection? Anyone know? Clicking on the intersection yields no clues. Here's what http://www.airnav.com says about it: Name: VIPKE Identifier: VIPKE Location: 37-58-13.210N / 076-50-40.120W (VIRGINIA) ARTCC: ZDC Fix to be published? yes Navaid radial/DME: Charts: ENROUTE HIGH Charting info: CNF Fix use: Reporting point Remove SHIRT to reply directly. Dave |
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Ahh. I forgot Airnav has fixes. Thanks. I believe that answers my question.
Since the flight plan I entered in the AOPA Flight Planner had an altitude of only 8,000 feet, then it seems that it is a low-severity defect in the planner. Marco "Dave Butler" wrote in message ... Marco Leon wrote: Hi all. What does it mean when there's an alternate intersection name in brackets in the new AOPA Flight Planner? As an example, there's an intersection just south of the Wash D.C. Class B where V286 and V16 cross. It's called TAPPA but the new AOPA flight planner also has [VIPKE] in brackets. It also chose to highlight VIPKE on the enroute map as opposed to TAPPA. The Jepp enroute chart simply has this as TAPPA with no alternate names. I also can't seem to find this symbology anywhere else on the Jepp chart. Is VIPKE a high-altitude/jet route name for the same intersection? Anyone know? Clicking on the intersection yields no clues. Here's what http://www.airnav.com says about it: Name: VIPKE Identifier: VIPKE Location: 37-58-13.210N / 076-50-40.120W (VIRGINIA) ARTCC: ZDC Fix to be published? yes Navaid radial/DME: Charts: ENROUTE HIGH Charting info: CNF Fix use: Reporting point Remove SHIRT to reply directly. Dave Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:36:01 -0500, "Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net
wrote: Hi all. What does it mean when there's an alternate intersection name in brackets in the new AOPA Flight Planner? As an example, there's an intersection just south of the Wash D.C. Class B where V286 and V16 cross. It's called TAPPA but the new AOPA flight planner also has [VIPKE] in brackets. It also chose to highlight VIPKE on the enroute map as opposed to TAPPA. The Jepp enroute chart simply has this as TAPPA with no alternate names. I also can't seem to find this symbology anywhere else on the Jepp chart. Is VIPKE a high-altitude/jet route name for the same intersection? Anyone know? Clicking on the intersection yields no clues. Thanks, Marco VIPKE is a high-altitude fix on J14. It marks a bend in that route. Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA) |
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