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wrote in message ... On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:58:46 GMT, "Chip Jones" wrote: Far more likely you swivel-heads will get the few AFSS guys who actually are qualified controllers. Ironic, too, in a twisted FAA way.. After all, the 69 Level 2-3 VFR towers will be the next part of the NAS auctioned off to the low bidder, followed by Level-Three up-down terminal facilities. Those few AFSS people who get picked up in air traffic will be job-hunting again in about five years, along with a whole bunch of terminal 2152's. Serco or Lockmart is headed your way right around 2010 or so. Chip, ZTL Boy, would I love to read this translated into English. Talkdon't you Newspeak? Doubleplus ungood. C.f. also the opening of Neal Stephenson's "Snow Crash" set about 50 years in the future, when there is a completely separate language spoken only by taxi drivers. My WAG translation (IANAATC): Swivelheads = tower controllers (always turning their head to see airplanes unlike a scope controller) Level 2-3 VFR towers are low-traffic (non-radar?) federal towers Level 3 up-down are lower-traffic app/dep control feeders Terminal 2152s? Lost me there. Lower qualification level maybe? Lockmart = Lockheed Martin (aka Lockmar) ZTL = Atlanta Center (iirc) -cwk. |
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"Chip Jones" wrote in message nk.net... Naw, *you're* getting all of the AFSS guys who have been surplussed. I'm in a Level-12 ARTCC at the top of the ATC food chain. The AFSS guys that have a Center background are almost all to a person, if not actually to a person, enroute training failures. When we used to wash 'em out, they got sent down to AFSS or some small tower/tracon in the minors somewhere. The vast majority of employable AFSS people aren't qualified for ARTCC developmental positions. We don't accept training failure transfers here at the world's busiest ATC facility. So what possessed you to transfer to ZOB? |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net... "Chip Jones" wrote in message nk.net... Naw, *you're* getting all of the AFSS guys who have been surplussed. I'm in a Level-12 ARTCC at the top of the ATC food chain. The AFSS guys that have a Center background are almost all to a person, if not actually to a person, enroute training failures. When we used to wash 'em out, they got sent down to AFSS or some small tower/tracon in the minors somewhere. The vast majority of employable AFSS people aren't qualified for ARTCC developmental positions. We don't accept training failure transfers here at the world's busiest ATC facility. So what possessed you to transfer to ZOB? LOL Stevie, you don't get out much, do ya? ZOB is #2... Chip, ZTL |
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:06:42 +0000 (UTC), (Paul
Tomblin) wrote: Hmmm. Does anybody make a digital clock that's TSO'ed to replace a Piper analog clock? Dunno about Piper, but I got a replacement digital clock for the yoke mount in my 1965 M20E to replace the 7-day windup analog original. Can't recall the brand -- it might have been Davtron. Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA) |
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Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
Dunno about Piper, but I got a replacement digital clock for the yoke mount in my 1965 M20E to replace the 7-day windup analog original.\ Almost certainly an 8-day windup. That was standard for the genre. The idea was you picked a set weekly schedule to wind it (i.e. every Monday morning), and it never got down below 1 day's worth of winding left. |
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"Chip Jones" wrote in message nk.net... LOL Stevie, you don't get out much, do ya? ZOB is #2... Is it? What's your source for that? According to the Administrator's Fact Book, ZOB was numero uno in CYs 1997 through 2003. It's updated quarterly, the latest is November 2004 so it doesn't have data for CY 2004. http://www.atctraining.faa.gov/factbook/ |
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"Newps" wrote in message ... wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:58:46 GMT, "Chip Jones" wrote: Far more likely you swivel-heads will get the few AFSS guys who actually are qualified controllers. Ironic, too, in a twisted FAA way.. After all, the 69 Level 2-3 VFR towers will be the next part of the NAS auctioned off to the low bidder, followed by Level-Three up-down terminal facilities. Those few AFSS people who get picked up in air traffic will be job-hunting again in about five years, along with a whole bunch of terminal 2152's. Serco or Lockmart is headed your way right around 2010 or so. Chip, ZTL Boy, would I love to read this translated into English. Translation: Nobody works here so I can't get a day off. Nobody else CAN work here because it's so godawful difficult. Pity me. All of which is BS. Translation- FSS types aren't coming to Centers... Chip, ZTL |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net... "Chip Jones" wrote in message nk.net... LOL Stevie, you don't get out much, do ya? ZOB is #2... Is it? What's your source for that? According to the Administrator's Fact Book, ZOB was numero uno in CYs 1997 through 2003. It's updated quarterly, the latest is November 2004 so it doesn't have data for CY 2004. http://www.atctraining.faa.gov/factbook/ My source for that is the exact source you quote. It does indeed have data for CY 2004... Chip, ZT: |
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"Chip Jones" wrote in message ink.net... My source for that is the exact source you quote. It does indeed have data for CY 2004... It does? How can that be? It says the latest edition is November 2004. How can it have data for all of 2004? |
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