Kennedy gets his own TFR

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Tina writes:

I don't remember, but was anyone in this newsgroup upset that Senator
John Glenn got to ride in one of the shuttles for some 'scientific'
reason after he left the senate? It was, of course, made up science.

I thought his trip was useful because it made it clear that age isn't the
obstacle that many believe it to be.


Wo! just think! you'll be able to not fly airpalnes well into your
nineties!



Bertie

Glenn's trip was a "Thank you" from NASA. It was junk science, nothing
seems to have appeared in the professional literature.

Who cares about the cost, it's other people's money.

It made NOTHING clear. scientifically except a useless agency knows
where its funding comes from.




On May 27, 3:36 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Tina writes:
I don't remember, but was anyone in this newsgroup upset that Senator
John Glenn got to ride in one of the shuttles for some 'scientific'
reason after he left the senate? It was, of course, made up science.

I thought his trip was useful because it made it clear that age isn't the
obstacle that many believe it to be.

I don't remember, but was anyone in this newsgroup upset that Senator
John Glenn got to ride in one of the shuttles for some 'scientific'
reason after he left the senate? It was, of course, made up science.

I thought his trip was useful because it made it clear that age isn't the
obstacle that many believe it to be.

Giving an elderly astronaut-hero-senator a free ride on the shuttle (which,
after all, has the capacity to carry him at no extra charge) is a far cry
from denying all pilots the right to overfly a dying politician sitting on
his yacht. There is no moral equivalence in the two examples.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:V0z%j.185288$yE1.118457@attbi_s21:

I don't remember, but was anyone in this newsgroup upset that
Senator John Glenn got to ride in one of the shuttles for some
'scientific' reason after he left the senate? It was, of course,
made up science.

I thought his trip was useful because it made it clear that age isn't
the obstacle that many believe it to be.

Giving an elderly astronaut-hero-senator a free ride on the shuttle
(which, after all, has the capacity to carry him at no extra charge)
is a far cry from denying all pilots the right to overfly a dying
politician sitting on his yacht. There is no moral equivalence in the
two examples.

No extra charge? You are nuts. Go learn about the cost of carrying each
pound into orbit.

On 2008-05-30, Helen Waite wrote:
No extra charge? You are nuts. Go learn about the cost of carrying each
pound into orbit.

I strongly suspect the price/kg into orbit is calculated as total cost
of mission divided by payload, to give you the launch price.

If the launch vehicle is going *anyway*, the incremental cost of putting
John Glenn in there is probably a fraction of the per kg. cost that is
stated as the Shuttle price/kg launched into low Earth orbit.

--
From the sunny Isle of Man.
Yes, the Reply-To email address is valid.

Soupy Sales was a seniour
Tina wrote on 5/26/2008 :
As I wrote before, I don't like this man, but this kind of perq is
pretty minor for someone with his influence. It may be one of the last
times he *SALES* this course.

On May 26, 8:20 pm, Tina wrote:

As I wrote before, I don't like this man, but this kind of perq is
pretty minor for someone with his influence. It may be one of the last
times he sales this course.

I don't remember, but was anyone in this newsgroup upset that Senator
John Glenn got to ride in one of the shuttles for some 'scientific'
reason after he left the senate? It was, of course, made up science.


While some may complain about the cost of such a trip for Glenn, I
probably won't. John Glenn is nearly unique in his background. But
other than some tax money, his trip affected no one.
Ted Kennedy is one of many hundreds of Senators past and present. A
TFR affects many people, mostly in a negative vein. He does not
warrant that as a senator. If he did, so do the other senators. And
if we had a TFR for all of them, we could pretty much shut the country
down.

Tina wrote"
This TFR probably was intended to protect the Figawi (I am NOT joking
about the name) race, goes from one of the islands to Hyannis. The
Boston Globe wrote

Were TFRs issued for the previous races? I don't know. If not, then
the TFR was for Kennedy. If they were, then this discussion is moot.
8)

wrote:

I don't remember, but was anyone in this newsgroup upset that Senator
John Glenn got to ride in one of the shuttles for some 'scientific'
reason after he left the senate? It was, of course, made up science.


While some may complain about the cost of such a trip for Glenn, I
probably won't. John Glenn is nearly unique in his background. But
other than some tax money, his trip affected no one.


The "made up science" was a study of the effect of weightlessness on the
elderly. It was stated at the time that Glenn was chosen because data
during the shuttle flight could be compared to data collected during his
Mercury flight in 1962. By that reasoning Alan Shepard or Wally Schirra or
Gordon Cooper would have been better choices. Shepard had medical data from
Mercury-Redstone 3 in 1961 and Apollo 14 in 1971 to compare with data
obtained from riding the Shuttle. Schirra had data from Mercury-Atlas 8 in
1962, Gemini 6 in 1965, and Apollo 7 in 1968. Gordon Cooper had data from
Mercury-Atlas 9 in 1963 and Gemini 5 in 1965.

Glenn's shuttle ride was most likely a reward for his role in thwarting the
Senate investigation of the illegal fundraising activities of Bill Clinton
and the Democratic Party.

In article ,
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

Glenn's shuttle ride was most likely a reward for his role in thwarting the
Senate investigation of the illegal fundraising activities of Bill Clinton
and the Democratic Party.

or possibly an attempt to get rid of Sen Glenn so the vast right wing conspiracy
could try again... yeah, that's what it was...

;-)

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

Bob Noel wrote:
In article ,
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

Glenn's shuttle ride was most likely a reward for his role in
thwarting the Senate investigation of the illegal fundraising
activities of Bill Clinton and the Democratic Party.

or possibly an attempt to get rid of Sen Glenn so the vast right wing
conspiracy could try again... yeah, that's what it was...


Gee, another conspiracy nut.