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Recording your flight time
With built-in flight timers becoming the norm in virtually all new avionics
(heck, even the new transponder I'm getting has one), just wondering if folks are migrating away from using hobbs/tach time to record their flight time? And if you *are* using the flight timer, have you stopped using the old archaic "1.3 hours" method of recording flight time? Anyone using actual hours and minutes in their logbook instead? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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I have been using my handheld GPS to both record the flight time and record
my flight track. For every logbook entry, I have an actual track of the flight downloaded to my computer using Track Maker. I use the time recorded when I start to taxi for take off and when I taxi to park after landing. Richard "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:7oiFb.618964$Fm2.558042@attbi_s04... With built-in flight timers becoming the norm in virtually all new avionics (heck, even the new transponder I'm getting has one), just wondering if folks are migrating away from using hobbs/tach time to record their flight time? And if you *are* using the flight timer, have you stopped using the old archaic "1.3 hours" method of recording flight time? Anyone using actual hours and minutes in their logbook instead? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 14:47:31 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:
With built-in flight timers becoming the norm in virtually all new avionics (heck, even the new transponder I'm getting has one), just wondering if folks are migrating away from using hobbs/tach time to record their flight time? And if you *are* using the flight timer, have you stopped using the old archaic "1.3 hours" method of recording flight time? Anyone using actual ^^^^^^^ (With a smile) If you look in older logbooks (engine, airframe, or pilots), all time was logged with actual hours:minutes. Of course they didn't have electric Hobbs meters and most of the tachs had no time recording, simply the rpm. Believe most of the tachs are accurate for time only around cruise rpm (surely there is some standard for this) so not completely accurate for time recording except for engine time. So 'archaic' may not be quite the correct term since _it_ is the newcomer. Either way would, of course be permissible, but remember that adding any long list of hours/minutes, you will have to convert min on the total to get the total hours:min time. Incidentally, my Maule doesn't have a tach, so I use the ole' watch and change into unit.decimal for the logbooks. (Easier adding! heehee) Isn't it nice to have a lazy Sunday where you don't think about anything more important than this? haahaa Hope all have happy holidays. ....Edwin -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Edwin Johnson ....... ~ ~ http://www.shreve.net/~elj ~ ~ ~ ~ "Once you have flown, you will walk the ~ ~ earth with your eyes turned skyward, ~ ~ for there you have been, there you long ~ ~ to return." -- da Vinci ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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"Edwin Johnson" wrote in message ... Either way would, of course be permissible, but remember that adding any long list of hours/minutes, you will have to convert min on the total to get the total hours:min time. Yep, the FAA (at least for most planes) doesn't mandate any scheme for measuring service times. All they ask is that you be consistant. |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:7oiFb.618964$Fm2.558042@attbi_s04... With built-in flight timers becoming the norm in virtually all new avionics (heck, even the new transponder I'm getting has one), just wondering if folks are migrating away from using hobbs/tach time to record their flight time? The "time in motion" timer in my GPS is a godsend for going back and determining how long you flew (of course, we have to guess as to how much of the time was me and how much was Margy still). |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:7oiFb.618964$Fm2.558042@attbi_s04... With built-in flight timers becoming the norm in virtually all new avionics (heck, even the new transponder I'm getting has one), just wondering if folks are migrating away from using hobbs/tach time to record their flight time? And if you *are* using the flight timer, have you stopped using the old archaic "1.3 hours" method of recording flight time? Anyone using actual hours and minutes in their logbook instead? The two planes I fly _IN_ (I'm never PIC, but I do ride right seat) do not have Hobbs meters. They do, however, have three sets of digital chrono's (ADF, Clock, Transponder). At what point can one start recording _Flight Time_? Engine start? First master switch? Tom |
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ... "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:7oiFb.618964$Fm2.558042@attbi_s04... With built-in flight timers becoming the norm in virtually all new avionics (heck, even the new transponder I'm getting has one), just wondering if folks are migrating away from using hobbs/tach time to record their flight time? And if you *are* using the flight timer, have you stopped using the old archaic "1.3 hours" method of recording flight time? Anyone using actual hours and minutes in their logbook instead? The two planes I fly _IN_ (I'm never PIC, but I do ride right seat) do not have Hobbs meters. They do, however, have three sets of digital chrono's (ADF, Clock, Transponder). At what point can one start recording _Flight Time_? Engine start? First master switch? Tom I log time from when the airplane starts moving to the time it stops moving; So called "block-to-block" time; Using my watch; In hours and tenths. H. H. Adam Stevens CP AS&MEL IA ex N2196B, ex N739CD, ex N502TB What next? An RV8 perhaps? |
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Tom Sixkiller wrote:
At what point can one start recording _Flight Time_? Engine start? First master switch? I could'nt find anything in the FARS for "when" to start counting, but I am under the impression from my experiences, that anytime the prop is turning is the time you count. Allen |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 11:00:59 -0800, A Lieberman
wrote: I could'nt find anything in the FARS for "when" to start counting, but I am under the impression from my experiences, that anytime the prop is turning is the time you count. You didn't look at the beginning: 14CFR Part 1 Sec 1.1 Flight time means: (1) Pilot time that commences when an aircraft moves under its own power for the purpose of flight and ends when the aircraft comes to rest after landing; or (2) For a glider without self-launch capability, pilot time that commences when the glider is towed for the purpose of flight and ends when the glider comes to rest after landing. Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA) |
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Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
You didn't look at the beginning: 14CFR Part 1 Sec 1.1 Flight time means: (1) Pilot time that commences when an aircraft moves under its own power for the purpose of flight and ends when the aircraft comes to rest after landing; or (2) For a glider without self-launch capability, pilot time that commences when the glider is towed for the purpose of flight and ends when the glider comes to rest after landing. Thanks Ron, Guess gliders don't have props!!! Helps to look at the "whole picture"! Allen |
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