Gear up takeoff

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ON TAKEOFF, SANK DOWN ONTO RUNWAY WITH GEAR RETRACTED, FORT
LAUDERDALE, FL

Is this an example of putting the gear lever up before advancing the
throttle for takeoff?

john smith wrote:
DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ON TAKEOFF, SANK DOWN ONTO RUNWAY WITH GEAR RETRACTED, FORT
LAUDERDALE, FL

Is this an example of putting the gear lever up before advancing the
throttle for takeoff?

My father was an B-25 instructor in CA during WWII. He said some of the
cadets would do this and the CO would be real mad when the B-25 settled
back to earth.

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DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ON TAKEOFF, SANK DOWN ONTO RUNWAY WITH GEAR RETRACTED, FORT
LAUDERDALE, FL

Is this an example of putting the gear lever up before advancing the
throttle for takeoff?



No, that's ignoring the little check-list item "...positive rate of climb,
gear up, ....."

("Ross" wrote)
My father was an B-25 instructor in CA during WWII. He said some of the
cadets would do this and the CO would be real mad when the B-25 settled
back to earth.


B-25 ....BOMBER!

I'm with the CO on this one. :-)


Paul-Mont

In article ,
"Montblack" wrote:

("Ross" wrote)
My father was an B-25 instructor in CA during WWII. He said some of the
cadets would do this and the CO would be real mad when the B-25 settled
back to earth.


B-25 ....BOMBER!

I'm with the CO on this one. :-)


Paul-Mont

Bombers have an advantage over other types on these types of takeoffs.
When you feel the aircraft starting to settle, you can just hit the button
and drop your load. The sudden decrease in aircraft weight will give you
the extra performance boost you need to start climbing.

john smith wrote:
DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ON TAKEOFF, SANK DOWN ONTO RUNWAY WITH GEAR RETRACTED, FORT
LAUDERDALE, FL

Is this an example of putting the gear lever up before advancing the
throttle for takeoff?

It could be. On some aircraft, as soon as pressure on the squat switch is
relieved, the gear will start coming up if the gear handle is in the "up"
position. On the other hand, this could be a case of the pilot pulling the
gear up prematurely on the takeoff run.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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In article 755395d04533f@uwe,
"flynrider via AviationKB.com" u32749@uwe wrote:

On some aircraft, as soon as pressure on the squat switch is
relieved, the gear will start coming up if the gear handle is in the "up"
position.

Are there any aircraft for which that is NOT the case?

"Ross" wrote in message
...

Is this an example of putting the gear lever up before advancing the
throttle for takeoff?

My father was an B-25 instructor in CA during WWII. He said some of the
cadets would do this and the CO would be real mad when the B-25 settled
back to earth.

Some/all B-17s will do that too. When Evergreen turned me loose in their
bird (flipped on the battery and open the bomb bay for some visiting WWII
vets) I was specifically briefed NOT to bump the landing gear lever or it
would be a very bad day at the hangar. I've had more than one nightmare of
doing just that since.

When I started flying retractables, it really spooked me out all over again
for a bit.

-c

"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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I'm with the CO on this one. :-)

Paul-Mont

Bombers have an advantage over other types on these types of takeoffs.
When you feel the aircraft starting to settle, you can just hit the button
and drop your load. The sudden decrease in aircraft weight will give you
the extra performance boost you need to start climbing.

I'm sure that's very comforting to the folks aft of the bomb bay. :

-c

Roy Smith wrote:
In article 755395d04533f@uwe,
"flynrider via AviationKB.com" u32749@uwe wrote:

On some aircraft, as soon as pressure on the squat switch is
relieved, the gear will start coming up if the gear handle is in the "up"
position.

Are there any aircraft for which that is NOT the case?

There's no squat switch on the gear on the Navion. There's no
electrical components in the retraction/extension system at
all. It's 100% hydraulic. The only thing that keeps the main
retracting is the airplane is too heavy for the actuators. The
nose will come up with the amount of pressure from the engine
driven hydraulic pump being turned by the starter.

Johnson-bar mooneys are similar.