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I wonder why they bother. Even if you went NORDO
direct DOCAL direct would be fine... The other day I filed PAO D OLM (Olympia, WA) D Bremerton. They gave me vecs V334 SAC then as filed. I think I got to fly about 10 miles of V334 between vectors on to it and being cleared direct afterwards. John "Craig Prouse" wrote in message ... "John Harper" wrote: I'd love to know in advance what is the preferred IFR route from VCB to PAO. Other than intellectual curiosity, why? Even when they give you a clearance you'll probably spend most of the time on vectors anyway. I'd guess it involves Vwhatever (I'm away from home) that goes OAK-SUNOL-SJC. That's what I had guessed as well, but after conscientiously filing that route on DUATS I found myself copying one of the more complicated and devious full-route clearances I've ever had the privilege to accept. If I'd known the preferred route, I would have filed it, been mentally prepared for it (becoming familiar with the names of a couple of obscure intersections), had it preloaded in the GPS, and copied little more than "as filed." And yes, after all of this, what I actually flew was: TZZ radar vectors CCR, direct. But it was late at night. |
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"Roy Smith" wrote in message ... (Snowbird) wrote: OK, one thing I've never really understood is the point of Tower Enroute Control. Maybe it doesn't apply much here in the Midwest where there's space between TRACONs. Can anyone explain this to me, using small words and speaking slowly? "Within the national airspace system it is possible for a pilot to fly IFR from one point to another without leaving approach controlled airspace. This is referred to as 'tower enroute' which allows flight beneath the enroute structure.." " All published TEC routes are designed to avoid enroute airspace and the majority are within radar coverage." "Routes are effective only during each respective terminal facility's normal operating hours." . This info is available in the Enroute section of Jeppesen Airway Manual. Happy fl;ying R.Wallace |
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