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Old April 17th 04, 04:23 PM
Ryan
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Default ID WWII airfield wreckage?

While going through my grandfather's war photo album, I came across a
photo of some German aircraft wreckage.

Only the tail sections are visible, and despite my efforts, I can't
identify them.

http://www.geocities.com/newsgrouppictures/

I would be fascinated to know what planes these are and any information
about when and where they were used.

-Ryan
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Old April 17th 04, 06:28 PM
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"Ryan" wrote in message
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http://www.geocities.com/newsgrouppictures/

I would be fascinated to know what planes these are and any information
about when and where they were used.

-Ryan


Heinkel 177 - Greif and Gotha 242?


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Old April 17th 04, 07:04 PM
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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:23:37 GMT, Ryan wrote:

While going through my grandfather's war photo album, I came across a
photo of some German aircraft wreckage.

Only the tail sections are visible, and despite my efforts, I can't
identify them.

http://www.geocities.com/newsgrouppictures/

I would be fascinated to know what planes these are and any information
about when and where they were used.

-Ryan


Well, most of the wreckages appear to be Ju 52s... the one closest to the
camera may be a Ju 88.

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Old April 18th 04, 08:04 AM
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"Ryan" wrote in message
...
While going through my grandfather's war photo album, I came across a
photo of some German aircraft wreckage.

Only the tail sections are visible, and despite my efforts, I can't
identify them.

http://www.geocities.com/newsgrouppictures/


The biggest part of them appear to be JU 58's: all that corrugated
sheet metal is a big tip off. I think what may be confusing you is
that the rudders are missing from nearly all the vertical stabilizers;
the one exception near the center of the frame shows the over-all
shape you're looking for.
The left most tail section is something else. The tail's different
(the rudder appears to be that old style that extends a top portion
forward of the hinge line), not corrugated, comparable in size to
the Ju58, kind of slab sided, horizontal tail plane mounted high
on the fuselage; probably another transport or large bomber.
But I haven't a clue which one.
There just isn't enough of that large piece to the far right for me
to guess about what part of a plane it might be.
German planes aren't my strong point.

I would be fascinated to know what planes these are and any information
about when and where they were used.


Ju 58's were transports and used every where by the WWII Germans:
they filled the same roles as the American C-47, just not as well.



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Old April 18th 04, 09:13 AM
Guy Alcala
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John Keeney wrote:

"Ryan" wrote in message
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While going through my grandfather's war photo album, I came across a
photo of some German aircraft wreckage.

Only the tail sections are visible, and despite my efforts, I can't
identify them.

http://www.geocities.com/newsgrouppictures/


The biggest part of them appear to be JU 58's:


??

Guy


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Old April 18th 04, 10:19 AM
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"John Keeney" wrote in message
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Ju 58's were transports and used every where by the WWII Germans:
they filled the same roles as the American C-47, just not as well.


Funny I thought the aircraft that filled that role was the Ju-52

Keith


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Old April 18th 04, 10:30 AM
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"John Keeney" wrote in message
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"Ryan" wrote in message
...
While going through my grandfather's war photo album, I came across a
photo of some German aircraft wreckage.

Only the tail sections are visible, and despite my efforts, I can't
identify them.

http://www.geocities.com/newsgrouppictures/


The biggest part of them appear to be JU 58's: all that corrugated
sheet metal is a big tip off. I think what may be confusing you is
that the rudders are missing from nearly all the vertical stabilizers;
the one exception near the center of the frame shows the over-all
shape you're looking for.


Possibly 52s instead of 58s.

The left most tail section is something else. The tail's different
(the rudder appears to be that old style that extends a top portion
forward of the hinge line), not corrugated, comparable in size to
the Ju58, kind of slab sided, horizontal tail plane mounted high
on the fuselage; probably another transport or large bomber.
But I haven't a clue which one.


He 177 with the rear turret mashed-up perhaps? Certainly of a similar size
tail section to those 52s, with the same shape vertical stabiliser as shown
in the picture, but I guess that's hardly uncommon.

There just isn't enough of that large piece to the far right for me
to guess about what part of a plane it might be.
German planes aren't my strong point.

I would be fascinated to know what planes these are and any information
about when and where they were used.


Ju 58's were transports and used every where by the WWII Germans:
they filled the same roles as the American C-47, just not as well.





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Old April 18th 04, 10:42 AM
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From: "John Keeney"
Date: 4/18/2004 2:04 AM Central Daylight Time
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"Ryan" wrote in message
...
While going through my grandfather's war photo album, I came across a
photo of some German aircraft wreckage.

Only the tail sections are visible, and despite my efforts, I can't
identify them.

http://www.geocities.com/newsgrouppictures/

The biggest part of them appear to be JU 58's: all that corrugated
sheet metal is a big tip off. I think what may be confusing you is
that the rudders are missing from nearly all the vertical stabilizers;
the one exception near the center of the frame shows the over-all
shape you're looking for.
The left most tail section is something else. The tail's different
(the rudder appears to be that old style that extends a top portion
forward of the hinge line), not corrugated, comparable in size to
the Ju58, kind of slab sided, horizontal tail plane mounted high
on the fuselage; probably another transport or large bomber.
But I haven't a clue which one.
There just isn't enough of that large piece to the far right for me
to guess about what part of a plane it might be.
German planes aren't my strong point.

I would be fascinated to know what planes these are and any information
about when and where they were used.


Ju 58's were transports and used every where by the WWII Germans:
they filled the same roles as the American C-47, just not as well.



I think you mean Ju52.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

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Old April 18th 04, 12:22 PM
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Funny I thought the aircraft that filled that role was the Ju-52

Keith


In Africa, the Gotha Go242 and 244 did that job!


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Old April 18th 04, 01:21 PM
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Ju 58's were transports and used every where by the WWII Germans:
they filled the same roles as the American C-47, just not as well.


I think you mean Ju 52 or to be even more accurate Ju 52-3m. For Junkers model
52 trimotor since the first Ju 52s were single engine. I wonder if there was
ever a Ju 52 2m?
 




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