Finding IAPs by TYPE?

: I'm with you all the way... when I finish upgrading my panel at the end of
: this year, I will retain every form of navigation known to piston general
: aviation: VOR, KNS-80 VOR/DME RNAV, ILS, LDA, SDF, ADF, GPS, Loran

The more, the merrier. Redundancy is a good thing... and keeps you fresh on
everything if you play with it all all the time. It's frightening to think of all the
pilots out there (VFR or IFR) that get in, mount their hand-held color,
moving-map GPS-295 to the yoke, punch direct-to and never look at anything else until
they're on short final.

: There is a VOR/DME RNAV approach to CRW (Charleston, WV); I fly it
: occasionally with students in my airplane. When you fly the approach,
: admire the approach lighting system built on bridges through the mountains..
: quite an impressive engineering feat.

I've noticed that... maybe next time I fly up to Ohio to see family I'll shoot
the approach on the way through for the certification checkout.

-Cory



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: I'm with you all the way... when I finish upgrading my panel at the end of
: this year, I will retain every form of navigation known to piston general
: aviation: VOR, KNS-80 VOR/DME RNAV, ILS, LDA, SDF, ADF, GPS, Loran

The more, the merrier. Redundancy is a good thing... and keeps you fresh on
everything if you play with it all all the time. It's frightening to think of all the
pilots out there (VFR or IFR) that get in, mount their hand-held color,
moving-map GPS-295 to the yoke, punch direct-to and never look at anything else until
they're on short final.

I'll see if I can locate some good used INSes and Omegas for you guys to install. ;-)

One way you can see procedure names in a list is by doing a Volume
search at the following website;

http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_tpp

Click on that link, and it will take you to a page with 2 options,
usually the current FLIPS or the next cycle's FLIPS.
Click on the pub cycle you want, and that takes you to a page with 4
search options (Airport ID, State, Airport Name, or Volume). Click on
the drop down Volume tab and select whichever part of the country you're
searching. (NE has 4 volumes).
When you click on the volume, a list of procedure will show up in
alphabetical order in that volume. Just look at the procedure name in
the right column until you find the type procedure you want. (Example,
there are 19 pages of procedures that you can skim through in NE-2)
The important thing is to search by "volume", and not by airport ID,
airport name or state.
(Note: There are 2 VOR/DME RNAV procedures listed just on the 1st page
of Volume NE-3, at Ronald Reagan Washington National)

JPH

wrote:

Hello all... I was looking through the online instrument procedures, trying to
find a VOR/DME RNAV approach to do the flight test portion of my KNS-80 IFR
certification. They aren't that prevalent, and I'm in Virginia, but basically equally
close to WV, KY, TN, and NC, which spans a number of sets of plates. I figured online
would be a good way to find one that's close, but none of the sites I've found (AOPA,
NACO.faa.gov, flyguides.com, etc) sort by anything other than identifier. Anyone know
of a place to sort this database by type? Buying a slew of paper plates just to
manually thumb through them and find RNAV approaches seems a bit silly. It seems like
sorting by approach time would be a good idea for a number of these online search
engines... so you can ignore any NDB, GPS, or DME approach if not so equipped.

Thoughts? (besides "why bother with the KNS-80"... I like it, get over it...

-Cory

J Haggerty wrote:

One way you can see procedure names in a list is by doing a Volume
search at the following website;

http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_tpp

Interesting search option. I did the entire SW-1 and SW-2 (all of California) and found a
total of two Rho/Theta RNAV approach procedures.

Thanks for the info. The Volume tab is better than the state or airport ID
than I was looking through. It's still a bit tedious, since I'm equally close to
NE-3, SE-1, SE-2, and WV. Each one of those four has on the order of 600 documents
spanning 20 pages of non-searchable HTML. I can't find how to say, "Gimme all these
on one page" or "Export list to text" or something. I'm sure the info is available
out there, but I haven't found it.

-Cory

J Haggerty wrote:
: One way you can see procedure names in a list is by doing a Volume
: search at the following website;

: http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_tpp

: Click on that link, and it will take you to a page with 2 options,
: usually the current FLIPS or the next cycle's FLIPS.
: Click on the pub cycle you want, and that takes you to a page with 4
: search options (Airport ID, State, Airport Name, or Volume). Click on
: the drop down Volume tab and select whichever part of the country you're
: searching. (NE has 4 volumes).
: When you click on the volume, a list of procedure will show up in
: alphabetical order in that volume. Just look at the procedure name in
: the right column until you find the type procedure you want. (Example,
: there are 19 pages of procedures that you can skim through in NE-2)
: The important thing is to search by "volume", and not by airport ID,
: airport name or state.
: (Note: There are 2 VOR/DME RNAV procedures listed just on the 1st page
: of Volume NE-3, at Ronald Reagan Washington National)

: JPH

: wrote:

: Hello all... I was looking through the online instrument procedures, trying to
: find a VOR/DME RNAV approach to do the flight test portion of my KNS-80 IFR
: certification. They aren't that prevalent, and I'm in Virginia, but basically equally
: close to WV, KY, TN, and NC, which spans a number of sets of plates. I figured online
: would be a good way to find one that's close, but none of the sites I've found (AOPA,
: NACO.faa.gov, flyguides.com, etc) sort by anything other than identifier. Anyone know
: of a place to sort this database by type? Buying a slew of paper plates just to
: manually thumb through them and find RNAV approaches seems a bit silly. It seems like
: sorting by approach time would be a good idea for a number of these online search
: engines... so you can ignore any NDB, GPS, or DME approach if not so equipped.
:
: Thoughts? (besides "why bother with the KNS-80"... I like it, get over it...
:
: -Cory
:
:

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wrote:

Thanks for the info. The Volume tab is better than the state or airport ID
than I was looking through. It's still a bit tedious, since I'm equally close to
NE-3, SE-1, SE-2, and WV. Each one of those four has on the order of 600 documents
spanning 20 pages of non-searchable HTML. I can't find how to say, "Gimme all these
on one page" or "Export list to text" or something. I'm sure the info is available
out there, but I haven't found it.

They have a statement at the bottom of each Volume page about various converters.

Just for testing, I created an Acrobat file with AK-1 and ended up with a great search
engine.

writes:

Hello all... I was looking through the online instrument procedures, trying to
find a VOR/DME RNAV approach to do the flight test portion of my KNS-80 IFR
certification. They aren't that prevalent, and I'm in Virginia, but basically equally
close to WV, KY, TN, and NC, which spans a number of sets of plates. I figured online
would be a good way to find one that's close, but none of the sites I've found (AOPA,
NACO.faa.gov, flyguides.com, etc) sort by anything other than identifier. Anyone know
of a place to sort this database by type? Buying a slew of paper plates just to
manually thumb through them and find RNAV approaches seems a bit silly.

Freakin' lazy-ass paper-saving autopilot-using instrument pilots...
https://aviationtoolbox.org/Members/...= TN&state=NC

--kyler

Thanks! I forgot you'd put some approach plates on your site. I figured that
someone with the raw data had done it. Exactly what I was looking for.

Now, why was I thinking that there are enough of these approaches to be worth
the effort in certifying it?....

-Cory

Kyler Laird wrote:
: writes:

: Hello all... I was looking through the online instrument procedures, trying to
:find a VOR/DME RNAV approach to do the flight test portion of my KNS-80 IFR
:certification. They aren't that prevalent, and I'm in Virginia, but basically equally
:close to WV, KY, TN, and NC, which spans a number of sets of plates. I figured online
:would be a good way to find one that's close, but none of the sites I've found (AOPA,
:NACO.faa.gov, flyguides.com, etc) sort by anything other than identifier. Anyone know
:of a place to sort this database by type? Buying a slew of paper plates just to
:manually thumb through them and find RNAV approaches seems a bit silly.

: Freakin' lazy-ass paper-saving autopilot-using instrument pilots...
: https://aviationtoolbox.org/Members/...= TN&state=NC

: --kyler

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wrote:


Now, why was I thinking that there are enough of these approaches to be worth
the effort in certifying it?....

In case you miss my other message there are 228 of them.

writes:

: https://aviationtoolbox.org/Members/...= TN&state=NC

Thanks! I forgot you'd put some approach plates on your site. I figured that
someone with the raw data had done it. Exactly what I was looking for.

I'm not that good. I'd thought about doing something like that awhile
ago but I hadn't gotten around to it. After I read your request this
morning I decided to quickly whip together something simple. It's
easier for me to work from an example. (Plus I'm avoiding studying for
my final exam tomorrow...)

BTW, the compilations should work for that list now. (I noticed you had
a problem with it earlier. It wasn't dealing well with compiling plates
for multiple airports.)

Now, why was I thinking that there are enough of these approaches to be worth
the effort in certifying it?....

Did you try searching for just "RNAV" approaches? There are a bunch
more.
https://aviationtoolbox.org/Members/...te=TN&state=NC

--kyler