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JPI install details (long)
Long long story for the archives cut short: 60 hours logged and signed off
in my AMT log but my JPI EDM 760 Twin plus Oil temp is installed. Everything works as advertised. For those who may contemplate this install, read the Install manual AND the website FAQs several times. JPI's documentation is far from complete and concise and you'll pick up required tips and procedures from several of their documents. Don't even get me started on their operators manual vs. recent firmware revisions! Here are the put yourself to sleep details: A couple months ago I had one of those airplane upgrade dreams that all owners eventually have. New this, new that, wouldn't this be cool, if I only had this... you know the dream where the sheep that you're counting all have $$$ painted on their sides, your bank account is unlimited, and all your wife ever says is "Sure honey, that would be nice." Anyway, my dream started off with a JPI EDM 760 Twin engine analyzer that featured indicators for both engines in one 3 1/8" display. Those 14 orange bars (I dreamt that I had the optional Oil Temp probes) flashed and flickered as the $heep merrily hopped along through their pasture of lush green grass (obviously another money metaphor). It continued on with a Shadin dual fuel flow indicator that is STC'd to eliminated our old inaccurate Piper fuel flow pressure gauge and interfaced with our King KLN94 GPS. Ahhhh life is good and all these new blinking lights and numbers make me feel like a real pilot..... zzzzzz.... As with most things in my flying life, I began to justify this project first in one way and then another. "I'd like to get it installed before we overhaul our left engine..... I should do it now while it's still warm out and I won't have to heat the hanger to do it this winter.... I can do it one piece at a time and it won't cost so much.... I can do it myself under the supervision of my A&P and save install $... With over 75% of the value of our airplane tied up in engines, I really ought to know what they are doing." I'm sure that most of you have used these same arguments, if not with your wives, with yourself, so I'm betting you know what I'm talking about. The next day I started shopping for price quotes and the die was cast, the Aztec was getting an engine monitor. I begin thinking that I could buy a used indicator on ebay, have the firmware updated, and buy new probes and a wiring harness. The STC is available from JPI and this idea "almost" pencils out, however JPI decided to continue their Oshkosh special and offered a $300 rebate plus 2 free option probes. This threw my favor towards a completely new system, including the warranty which I wouldn't have gotten by going piece-meal. After several phone calls and endless emails, Gulf Coast Avionics had the best deal and the most informative salesman, so he got my business. I decided to add 5 feet to the normal 20 foot wiring harnesses just to be sure I'd have enough wire, and as it turns out, I'm thankful that I did, this left me plenty of excess to create service loops and I ended up using 3 of the 5 extra feet reaching my #1 and #2 cylinders. While I waited for the unit to be shipped, I spent plenty of time perusing part 43 and JPI's manual for the proper methods and techniques of running and securing the wiring harnesses. I eventually ended up ordering a small fortune worth of heat resistant wedge type adel clamps, bolts, and steel stop nuts. Inquiries to this and other internet groups several A&P's that I've come to trust and respect suggested that using adel clamps and doing it right would be worth the extra effort and expense down the road, ie: plastic zip ties would eventually get brittle and break. But what route to take from the firewalls to the cylinders? Commercial break, flash back, rewind, grab another beer.... Does this ever happen to you? Just when you've spent some serious money on a project that might not be necessary, but is definitely an improvement, something comes along that you just CAN'T pass up. Only days after I shelled out for the complete JPI EDM 760, the eBay gods send me a "watched list" notification for a complete leather interior, only 2 years old including the complete seats for a 1966 Aztec.... and it's maroon. It would match perfectly! Uggg!!! I've got to bid on it! I price it using Airtex's catalog and figure out that it would cost over $10k, new. We bid $3k, win the auction, at the reserve price, fly to Ft Lauderdale (17hrs on the hobbs in under 26 clock hours) and bring home the interior. JPI project gets put on hold, interior gets installed leaving the forward pilot and co pilot side panels open to run the JPI wiring harnesses through the wings and into the cabin. Back to your regularly scheduled program: Our IO540's have their alternator cable routed one side and the starter cable routed on the other, both are tucked inside and above the intake tubes. However, the JPI instructions clearly state NOT to tie the probe leads or the wiring harness to these cables for fear of getting improper readings. This lead to a suggestion by my local A&P, secure the alternator and battery cables to the sump bolts using adel clamps and then using double adel clamps secure the JPI wire bundle to the battery and alternator cable. Easier said than done. My thumb and finger tips can attest to just how difficult it is to get your hands between the intake and exhaust tubes then secure an uncooperative adel clamp to a sump bolt! This was definitely NOT part of my dream, however, once completed, it made for a very neat, secure, and unobstructed install. The CHT probes and the EGT probes installed without a hitch. By the time I was finished, my fingers had become quite nimble installing the 52 tiny screws, 52 lock washers, 52 nuts, several feet of shrink tube, anti-chafe cover, triple tie wraps and triple tying with waxed lacing. (insert thread about removing the oil galley plugs here, heat and patience is the key) After several checkups and inspections by my A&P, I was ready to install the indicator and connect the wiring harnesses. I wanted to install the JPI in the upper left hole on the copilot's side. This required pulling a 2nd altimeter, moving it into the lower right hand side because the panel had a hole located perfectly for the adjustment knob. But, this is where my factory fuel flow lived so that would have to move upward to the upper right hole, which I made available by removing my right tach and installing a dual tach. The system requires a ground wire run to one of the engines, which JPI does not supply wire for, but the electrical connections are fairly simple. The ground wire and the power wire are pigtailed out of the power/option connection, so you just splice in a 2 amp circuit breaker or inline fuse to the power wire and splice into the ground wire that you ran to the engine. The oil temp, outside air temp, and TIT probes also get connected in this same connector. (If you choose the CHT bayonet adapter probe to work in conjunction with your factory CHT's you also have to ground those individual probes to the engines) With everything moved, installed, secured, and approved it was time to crank 'er up and see if all the blinking lights actually blinked. Ahhhh!!! Perrrrfect! I'm a happy camper and overdue for a nap....hmm... what's that? A $heep with $hadin dyed in it's wool??!! Lord have Mercy. Jim |
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With everything moved, installed, secured, and approved it was time to crank
'er up and see if all the blinking lights actually blinked. Ahhhh!!! Perrrrfect! I'm a happy camper and overdue for a nap....hmm... what's that? A $heep with $hadin dyed in it's wool??!! Lord have Mercy. Ha. It never ends, does it? Our JPI EDM-700 is the most important instrument in the panel. Before we start the take-off roll, the copilot calls out "Six good bars" once we're at full throttle -- meaning that all six cylinders are firing evenly. Without that call, we abort the take-off, period. When we lost cylinder #2 on departure from Titusville, FL, back in '04, it was instantly obvious what was going on, simply by glancing at the engine monitor. You will never, ever guess again "which cylinder is misfiring" when the engine runs rough. I'm glad my mechanic installed it, although he did use the tie-wrap method. So far, after just four years we've had to replace a few that have gotten brittle and broken, so your installation method is superior. You'll love that gauge as much as we do, I'm sure. And it might just save your life, or your engine, or both, someday. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Was that the exhaust leak event?
I'm sure we'll find it more and more valuable as time goes on. I've got one cylinder on our right engine that I'd like to do a compression check on, although it was 73/80 during our annual in August, the EGT drops off during very low power operation and the CHT trails the others. I've already cleaned the injector so a probe swap and a compression check are next on my list. It's also nice to know that our 2000 hour left engine is running stable as a rock. Jim "Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... With everything moved, installed, secured, and approved it was time to crank 'er up and see if all the blinking lights actually blinked. Ahhhh!!! Perrrrfect! I'm a happy camper and overdue for a nap....hmm... what's that? A $heep with $hadin dyed in it's wool??!! Lord have Mercy. Ha. It never ends, does it? Our JPI EDM-700 is the most important instrument in the panel. Before we start the take-off roll, the copilot calls out "Six good bars" once we're at full throttle -- meaning that all six cylinders are firing evenly. Without that call, we abort the take-off, period. When we lost cylinder #2 on departure from Titusville, FL, back in '04, it was instantly obvious what was going on, simply by glancing at the engine monitor. You will never, ever guess again "which cylinder is misfiring" when the engine runs rough. I'm glad my mechanic installed it, although he did use the tie-wrap method. So far, after just four years we've had to replace a few that have gotten brittle and broken, so your installation method is superior. You'll love that gauge as much as we do, I'm sure. And it might just save your life, or your engine, or both, someday. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Was that the exhaust leak event?
No, this was the lead B-Bs on the top AND bottom spark plug, thanks to long idling (Presidential TFR) and burning that nasty, expensive avgas. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Jay Honeck wrote about the cause of losing a cylinder
... this was the lead B-Bs on the top AND bottom spark plug, thanks to long idling (Presidential TFR) and burning that nasty, expensive avgas. and failure to lean agressively while idling? |
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JPI install details (long)
... this was the lead B-Bs on the top AND bottom spark plug, thanks to
long idling (Presidential TFR) and burning that nasty, expensive avgas. and failure to lean agressively while idling? Yep. Three things happened that day that rarely have happened. 1. A long, long idle, while waiting to depart a towered airport under a presidential TFR. 2. Four tanks full of avgas. 3. Several days of rain before departure. I don't know what it is, but my engine doesn't seem to run as smoothly after sitting outside in driving rain for days on end. Dunno if the spark plug wires are getting soaked, or what? Anyway, I obviously didn't lean enough during the long idle. Thank goodness I normally don't have to run with crap gas that requires such archaic engine management procedures. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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JPI install details (long)
"Jim Burns" wrote in message news Long long story for the archives cut short: 60 hours logged and signed off in my AMT log but my JPI EDM 760 Twin plus Oil temp is installed. Everything works as advertised. For those who may contemplate this install, read the Install manual AND the website FAQs several times. JPI's documentation is far from complete and concise and you'll pick up required tips and procedures from several of their documents. Don't even get me started on their operators manual vs. recent firmware revisions! snip Jim Nice write-up. Reminds me of every system I installed in my homebuilt. Lots of research, a steep learning curve, and finally, the satisfaction of doing something yourself and doing it right. Everything in aviation is a learning experience. KB |
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JPI install details (long)
Ah, so now I see the JPI-fuel flow-interior-oil galley plug
connection. And here I thought you were just futzing around with parts of the plane in some random fashion. :-) 60 hrs logged...very nice. Man...I'm tired from reading though. -- Jack Allison PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane "To become a Jedi knight, you must master a single force. To become a private pilot you must strive to master four of them" - Rod Machado (Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail) |
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It's all part of a huge Master(card bill) plan.
Jim "Jack Allison" wrote in message . .. Ah, so now I see the JPI-fuel flow-interior-oil galley plug connection. And here I thought you were just futzing around with parts of the plane in some random fashion. :-) 60 hrs logged...very nice. Man...I'm tired from reading though. -- Jack Allison PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane "To become a Jedi knight, you must master a single force. To become a private pilot you must strive to master four of them" - Rod Machado (Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail) |
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JPI install details (long)
Now that you have experience, want to do another
install in my '64 Aztec? :-) Ronnie "Jim Burns" wrote in message news Long long story for the archives cut short: 60 hours logged and signed off in my AMT log but my JPI EDM 760 Twin plus Oil temp is installed. Everything works as advertised. For those who may contemplate this install, read the Install manual AND the website FAQs several times. JPI's documentation is far from complete and concise and you'll pick up required tips and procedures from several of their documents. Don't even get me started on their operators manual vs. recent firmware revisions! Here are the put yourself to sleep details: A couple months ago I had one of those airplane upgrade dreams that all owners eventually have. New this, new that, wouldn't this be cool, if I only had this... you know the dream where the sheep that you're counting all have $$$ painted on their sides, your bank account is unlimited, and all your wife ever says is "Sure honey, that would be nice." Anyway, my dream started off with a JPI EDM 760 Twin engine analyzer that featured indicators for both engines in one 3 1/8" display. Those 14 orange bars (I dreamt that I had the optional Oil Temp probes) flashed and flickered as the $heep merrily hopped along through their pasture of lush green grass (obviously another money metaphor). It continued on with a Shadin dual fuel flow indicator that is STC'd to eliminated our old inaccurate Piper fuel flow pressure gauge and interfaced with our King KLN94 GPS. Ahhhh life is good and all these new blinking lights and numbers make me feel like a real pilot..... zzzzzz.... As with most things in my flying life, I began to justify this project first in one way and then another. "I'd like to get it installed before we overhaul our left engine..... I should do it now while it's still warm out and I won't have to heat the hanger to do it this winter.... I can do it one piece at a time and it won't cost so much.... I can do it myself under the supervision of my A&P and save install $... With over 75% of the value of our airplane tied up in engines, I really ought to know what they are doing." I'm sure that most of you have used these same arguments, if not with your wives, with yourself, so I'm betting you know what I'm talking about. The next day I started shopping for price quotes and the die was cast, the Aztec was getting an engine monitor. I begin thinking that I could buy a used indicator on ebay, have the firmware updated, and buy new probes and a wiring harness. The STC is available from JPI and this idea "almost" pencils out, however JPI decided to continue their Oshkosh special and offered a $300 rebate plus 2 free option probes. This threw my favor towards a completely new system, including the warranty which I wouldn't have gotten by going piece-meal. After several phone calls and endless emails, Gulf Coast Avionics had the best deal and the most informative salesman, so he got my business. I decided to add 5 feet to the normal 20 foot wiring harnesses just to be sure I'd have enough wire, and as it turns out, I'm thankful that I did, this left me plenty of excess to create service loops and I ended up using 3 of the 5 extra feet reaching my #1 and #2 cylinders. While I waited for the unit to be shipped, I spent plenty of time perusing part 43 and JPI's manual for the proper methods and techniques of running and securing the wiring harnesses. I eventually ended up ordering a small fortune worth of heat resistant wedge type adel clamps, bolts, and steel stop nuts. Inquiries to this and other internet groups several A&P's that I've come to trust and respect suggested that using adel clamps and doing it right would be worth the extra effort and expense down the road, ie: plastic zip ties would eventually get brittle and break. But what route to take from the firewalls to the cylinders? Commercial break, flash back, rewind, grab another beer.... Does this ever happen to you? Just when you've spent some serious money on a project that might not be necessary, but is definitely an improvement, something comes along that you just CAN'T pass up. Only days after I shelled out for the complete JPI EDM 760, the eBay gods send me a "watched list" notification for a complete leather interior, only 2 years old including the complete seats for a 1966 Aztec.... and it's maroon. It would match perfectly! Uggg!!! I've got to bid on it! I price it using Airtex's catalog and figure out that it would cost over $10k, new. We bid $3k, win the auction, at the reserve price, fly to Ft Lauderdale (17hrs on the hobbs in under 26 clock hours) and bring home the interior. JPI project gets put on hold, interior gets installed leaving the forward pilot and co pilot side panels open to run the JPI wiring harnesses through the wings and into the cabin. Back to your regularly scheduled program: Our IO540's have their alternator cable routed one side and the starter cable routed on the other, both are tucked inside and above the intake tubes. However, the JPI instructions clearly state NOT to tie the probe leads or the wiring harness to these cables for fear of getting improper readings. This lead to a suggestion by my local A&P, secure the alternator and battery cables to the sump bolts using adel clamps and then using double adel clamps secure the JPI wire bundle to the battery and alternator cable. Easier said than done. My thumb and finger tips can attest to just how difficult it is to get your hands between the intake and exhaust tubes then secure an uncooperative adel clamp to a sump bolt! This was definitely NOT part of my dream, however, once completed, it made for a very neat, secure, and unobstructed install. The CHT probes and the EGT probes installed without a hitch. By the time I was finished, my fingers had become quite nimble installing the 52 tiny screws, 52 lock washers, 52 nuts, several feet of shrink tube, anti-chafe cover, triple tie wraps and triple tying with waxed lacing. (insert thread about removing the oil galley plugs here, heat and patience is the key) After several checkups and inspections by my A&P, I was ready to install the indicator and connect the wiring harnesses. I wanted to install the JPI in the upper left hole on the copilot's side. This required pulling a 2nd altimeter, moving it into the lower right hand side because the panel had a hole located perfectly for the adjustment knob. But, this is where my factory fuel flow lived so that would have to move upward to the upper right hole, which I made available by removing my right tach and installing a dual tach. The system requires a ground wire run to one of the engines, which JPI does not supply wire for, but the electrical connections are fairly simple. The ground wire and the power wire are pigtailed out of the power/option connection, so you just splice in a 2 amp circuit breaker or inline fuse to the power wire and splice into the ground wire that you ran to the engine. The oil temp, outside air temp, and TIT probes also get connected in this same connector. (If you choose the CHT bayonet adapter probe to work in conjunction with your factory CHT's you also have to ground those individual probes to the engines) With everything moved, installed, secured, and approved it was time to crank 'er up and see if all the blinking lights actually blinked. Ahhhh!!! Perrrrfect! I'm a happy camper and overdue for a nap....hmm... what's that? A $heep with $hadin dyed in it's wool??!! Lord have Mercy. Jim |
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