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  #31  
Old March 4th 08, 03:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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buttman wrote:
On Mar 3, 10:50 am, Dudley Henriques wrote:
buttman wrote:
On Mar 2, 9:11 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Well, there's no restraints. No physical ones anyway.
Bertie
If Usenet represents man's ultimate attempt at meaningful communication,
no wonder the world is in such crappy shape. :-)
Well, it si educational, you gotta give it that.
Bertie
:-))
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Dudley Henriques
In the future, if you two rub buds could do your mutual fellating in
private email, it'd be great.

Get lost you moron, or post the path to the CFI rating you claim you
have :-)

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Dudley Henriques


ok

first I got my private license
then got an instrument rating
then I did the commercial
then I did the CFI training and passed the checkride

is that what you're looking for?

No, but this is what I expected from you. What I want to see is your CFI
certificate number. I don't believe you're a CFI at all. You don't have
to post it, but I won't believe it until I see it.

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  #34  
Old March 4th 08, 09:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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"Owner" wrote in news:47ccaa93$0$4951
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Owner" wrote in news:47cc7d56$0$4965
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in news:1e53e789-

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Hi Mr. **BIG HEAD**

On Mar 3, 1:38 pm, wrote:
On Mar 3, 1:27 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:

On Mar 3, 12:04 pm, Gig 601XL Builder wrgiac...

@REMOVEgmail.com
wrote:

Ken S. Tucker wrote:

I had a great Instructor, he was strict and informative.
While doing our bank instruction - up to 60 degs - he
gently admonished that my ball was not centered.
He went on to explain that most pilots bank left to
site see and also in the circuit, so the left tank may
fill up from the right if your uncoordinated and too
lax to coordinate turns while site seeing.

It sort of depends on the aircraft and its' fuel system.

Of course, Cessna 150/2 herein.
Ken

Go out, do a long slip, and report back as to how much
imbalance occurs.
Dan

So you advocate SOP in an F104 would be ok
with one wing tip tank empty and another one
full...The purpose of training is make the new
pilot AWARE, they have to become part of the
airplane they are flying. That's a vital part of
learning how to fly REAL A/C, something you
BIG HEAD have very limited experience with.

Good thing I'm here to back-stop this operation.

See what I mean? How is one supposed to deal with this level of
cluelessness? It's monumental.


Bertie


Though it's good to know Ken is available as a back-stop if needed




Do yuo think he's got enough brains to stand still?

Bertie



No, I just thought he probably doesn't have enough brains to move!




I bet his neighbors do..


Bertie
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Old March 4th 08, 09:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
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buttman wrote:
On Mar 3, 10:50 am, Dudley Henriques wrote:



is that what you're looking for?

No, but this is what I expected from you. What I want to see is your
CFI certificate number. I don't believe you're a CFI at all. You don't
have to post it, but I won't believe it until I see it.



Oh I'd believe he's one. There has to be some reason that flying skills are
going down the drain....



Bertie
  #36  
Old March 4th 08, 03:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Bob F.
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
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buttman wrote:
On Mar 3, 10:50 am, Dudley Henriques wrote:



is that what you're looking for?

No, but this is what I expected from you. What I want to see is your
CFI certificate number. I don't believe you're a CFI at all. You don't
have to post it, but I won't believe it until I see it.



Oh I'd believe he's one. There has to be some reason that flying skills
are
going down the drain....



Bertie



If you have to land "without" flaps you are probably in big trouble. Where
did they go? ;-)
(I am sure we are talking about flaps "retracted")

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Old March 4th 08, 03:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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"Bob F." wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
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buttman wrote:
On Mar 3, 10:50 am, Dudley Henriques wrote:


is that what you're looking for?
No, but this is what I expected from you. What I want to see is your
CFI certificate number. I don't believe you're a CFI at all. You
don't have to post it, but I won't believe it until I see it.



Oh I'd believe he's one. There has to be some reason that flying
skills are
going down the drain....



Bertie



If you have to land "without" flaps you are probably in big trouble.
Where did they go? ;-)
(I am sure we are talking about flaps "retracted")


Or maybe not installed!



Bertie
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Old March 4th 08, 04:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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buttman wrote:
On Mar 3, 10:50 am, Dudley Henriques wrote:
is that what you're looking for?

No, but this is what I expected from you. What I want to see is your
CFI certificate number. I don't believe you're a CFI at all. You don't
have to post it, but I won't believe it until I see it.



Oh I'd believe he's one. There has to be some reason that flying skills are
going down the drain....



Bertie

First time I ran into this guy he was advocating mixture pulling on
takeoff "as long as you have enough runway ahead of you" . I'm sure
he'll say there was some caveat to this, but the general gist was that
if he was working for me, he'd have been out the door so fast he
wouldn't know he had ever worked for us :-)

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  #39  
Old March 4th 08, 04:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

buttman wrote:
On Mar 3, 10:50 am, Dudley Henriques wrote:
is that what you're looking for?
No, but this is what I expected from you. What I want to see is your
CFI certificate number. I don't believe you're a CFI at all. You
don't have to post it, but I won't believe it until I see it.



Oh I'd believe he's one. There has to be some reason that flying
skills are going down the drain....



Bertie

First time I ran into this guy he was advocating mixture pulling on
takeoff "as long as you have enough runway ahead of you" . I'm sure
he'll say there was some caveat to this, but the general gist was that
if he was working for me, he'd have been out the door so fast he
wouldn't know he had ever worked for us :-)


What? Mixture pulling on takeoff? For what?

My first introduction was that pfaff about calls in the pattern. I found it
worrying to think he might be even in the air in the same hemisphere as me
at any given moment after that..


Bertie
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Old March 4th 08, 04:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mar 3, 2:58 pm, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:

So you advocate SOP in an F104 would be ok
with one wing tip tank empty and another one
full...The purpose of training is make the new
pilot AWARE, they have to become part of the
airplane they are flying. That's a vital part of
learning how to fly REAL A/C, something you
BIG HEAD have very limited experience with.

Good thing I'm here to back-stop this operation.
Ken


Oh. F-104s. No, I have never flown an F-104 and have no idea
what a slip might do to the fuel balance. Seems to me, though, looking
at the wings on an F-104, that there's no room for fuel in them.
Seems, too, that the people that have flown them (a friend here used
to do avionics work on them and has been in them several times during
flight testing of the radios) that if the power is pulled to idle, the
thing doesn't glide. At all. Slips surely wouldn't be necessary.
Parachutes, on the other hand, would be handy if it quit.
You keep insisting I have little or no flight experience.
Yesterday I did two test flights on a Citabria we just put back
together. The testing involved full stalls, spin entries and
recoveries, steep turns and so on. How many flights did you do this
week?

Dan

 




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