Skylune (or family relation) takes to the water...

On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 14:03:45 -0600, Newps wrote:
It doesn't prohibit that. You can drink and drive a boat, you just
can't be intoxicated.

Well, considering how low the blood alcohol level is in the regs, I
would hazard to guess that most people who do it are over the limit...
Regardless, I don't think that there is any more danger from someone
with a trolling motor than there is with someone paddling and from
what I read, it seems that paddling while intoxicated is prefectly
legal...

The boat will give me a three year buffer. But then the youngest will
need a car soon...

Montblack wrote:

("Newps" wrote)

Add eight more cylinders to my CI.



Urban or rural?

Is your CI age, yet? :-)


Montblack

Sail boats have the right of way so the rest have to stay sober to
miss them )

I wonder what would be the law if he was in a sail boat and sailed in
front of the float plane???????????

Big John
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 07:07:09 GMT, Grumman-581
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 00:49:06 -0500, "Montblack"
wrote:
2006 - Minnesota Boating Guide
Boating While Intoxicated (BWI) .....Page 34

"BOATING WHILE INTOXICATED (BWI) - The alcohol concentration for impaired
operation is now .08."

http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/rlp/regulations/boa****er/boatingguide.pdf
(Page 35)
"The BWI law does not prohibit drinking alcoholic beverages aboard boats nor
having an open bottle. The law applies to operators of motorboats that are
not anchored, beached, moored, docked or being rowed or propelled by
non-mechanical means at the time of the offense."

Yet another really stupid law... I do not see the harm that it might
present to anyone else if a guy is cruising along with a trolling
motor while drinking a beer...

They mention motorboats... Are they saying that sailboating while
intoxicated is acceptable? Oh well, probably easier to not spill your
beer that way...

I wonder what would be the law if he was in a sail boat and sailed in
front of the float plane???????????

If he could sail fast enough, that would be an interesting question.

Jose
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:50:50 -0500, Big John
wrote:
I wonder what would be the law if he was in a sail boat and sailed in
front of the float plane???????????

I already posed that idea...

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:02:37 GMT, Jose
wrote:
If he could sail fast enough, that would be an interesting question.

40 kts?

http://www.hobiecat.com/sailing/TriF..._longshot.html

"Big John" wrote in message
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Sail boats have the right of way so the rest have to stay sober to
miss them )

I wonder what would be the law if he was in a sail boat and sailed in
front of the float plane???????????

Big John
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Sailboat has right of way, unless it's a narrow channel, or the aircraft has
to keep a certain orientation to a strong wind, etc, etc.
But just as in the air, it is the pilot's/skippers responsibility at all
times to avoid a collision, notwithstanding the right-of-way rules.

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:54:48 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
wrote:

"Emily" wrote in message
...
I've never flown a seaplane, but isn't it fairly unmaneuverable during
takeoff? I know I don't want to be swerving on the runway in a plane with
wheels...

snip

I've never had to deal with the situation described in the article, but I
certainly have aborted a number of takeoffs due to boaters. I've never had
a boater intentionally cross in front of me, but they certainly do tend to
get too close. A common "stupid boater trick" is to try to race the
seaplane during takeoff. If they keep their distance, I don't have a

You should see the ore and grain carriers coming up the Saginaw river.
People riding those little "personal water craft" will cross over very
close and actually ride the bow wave of those huge .

problem with that, but too often the boater (or even more commonly,
jetskier) approaches the airplane too closely, making a collision impossible
to ensure against, and eliminating maneuvering room I might need to avoid a
collision with another boater who doesn't see me.

OTOH I was landing on 05 at Bay city where you come in across some
flooded flats and then the river. There is about a 6 or 8 foot dike
(think I got the right spelling) at the end of the runway. I was
getting close to the river when I realized something didn't look
right. As I got close to the river I realized one of the big boats was
passing the end of the runway with the bow well to the north and the
stern well to the south of the runway. I went full power and into a
climb. Had I stayed on a normal path I would have passed about 30 feet
above the deck and between the bow and stern. There's usually "stuff"
hanging between the two.

when landing on 05 or 36 the thresholds are quite close to the water.



I have had less issues with landings. Few boaters notice an airplane until
it's actually on the water, and even on a relatively small lake, it's
usually possible to select a landing site far enough away from the boaters
that they cannot reach the airplane until it's slowed enough to be
reasonably maneuverable (though, an airplane on the water is never really
all that maneuverable).

Pete

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 12:47:59 GMT, B A R R Y
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:54:48 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
wrote:

. Right-of-way rules are for situations in which each vehicle is
traveling normally. The boater in this case was intentionally placing
himself in the way of the seaplane.

Absolutely!

I'll bet the boater's lawyer tries to spin it differently. I'll keep
my eyes on the local papers and post updates if his court appearance
gets any coverage. Unfortunately, the local papers probably won't
follow up on this case.

Here in Midland MI they publish the weekly court proceedings in the
local news paper. It's also available on the net. You have to sign up,
but it's free and they don't send you a lot of adds.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com