Bush's Trip: 747 or C-17 Which would you Choose?

Your in charge of flying the president to Baghdad

Your choices are a 747 or a C-17. The G5 is out since you have to make a
refueling stop which could blow security. Clinton flew to Kosovo in a C-17

Which do you choose and why.

Points to ponder.

The C-17 will require several aerial refuelings. AF1 may or may not need to
refuel in the air. The more tanker crews the more people who know the
president is going somewhere.

AF1 is a giant Billboard on the ground saying GWB is here. The C-17 is much
more discreet

747.

AF1 has IR jammers on the engines. The C-17 only has flares,
and they wouldn't be good for stealth arrival.


"Leadfoot" wrote in message news:ZBTxb.15791$o9.3280@fed1read07...
Your in charge of flying the president to Baghdad

Your choices are a 747 or a C-17. The G5 is out since you have to make a
refueling stop which could blow security. Clinton flew to Kosovo in a C-17

Which do you choose and why.

Points to ponder.

The C-17 will require several aerial refuelings. AF1 may or may not need to
refuel in the air. The more tanker crews the more people who know the
president is going somewhere.

AF1 is a giant Billboard on the ground saying GWB is here. The C-17 is much
more discreet

"Leadfoot" wrote in message
news:ZBTxb.15791$o9.3280@fed1read07...
Your in charge of flying the president to Baghdad

Your choices are a 747 or a C-17. The G5 is out since you have to make a
refueling stop which could blow security. Clinton flew to Kosovo in a C-17

How about throwing the E-4B National Airborne Operations Center aircraft
into the mix?

Tex

"Tex Houston" wrote
"Leadfoot" wrote

Your in charge of flying the president to Baghdad

Your choices are a 747 or a C-17. The G5 is out since you have to make a
refueling stop which could blow security. Clinton flew to Kosovo in a C-17

How about throwing the E-4B National Airborne Operations Center aircraft
into the mix?

It spends all of its time off the coast of Langley AFB, and never goes anywhere.

"Leadfoot" wrote in
news:ZBTxb.15791$o9.3280@fed1read07:

Your in charge of flying the president to Baghdad

Your choices are a 747 or a C-17. The G5 is out since you have
to make a refueling stop which could blow security.

Wouldn't it also sink into the pavement on many runways
when parked for more than a few hours?


Regards...

"Gene Storey" wrote in message
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"Tex Houston" wrote
"Leadfoot" wrote

Your in charge of flying the president to Baghdad

Your choices are a 747 or a C-17. The G5 is out since you have to
make a
refueling stop which could blow security. Clinton flew to Kosovo in a
C-17

How about throwing the E-4B National Airborne Operations Center aircraft
into the mix?

It spends all of its time off the coast of Langley AFB, and never goes
anywhere.


I choose Air Force One!

"Warren Okuma" wrote in message
...

"Gene Storey" wrote in message
news:mSTxb.2757$US3.885@okepread03...
How about throwing the E-4B National Airborne Operations Center
aircraft
into the mix?

It spends all of its time off the coast of Langley AFB, and never goes
anywhere.


I choose Air Force One!

The E-4B unit is based at Offutt AFB. I think someone is confused and is
thinking about the USN TACAMO E-6B Mercury operated by Strategic
Communications Wing One.

Tex

Tex Houston wrote:

"Warren Okuma" wrote in message
...

"Gene Storey" wrote in message
news:mSTxb.2757$US3.885@okepread03...
How about throwing the E-4B National Airborne Operations Center
aircraft
into the mix?

It spends all of its time off the coast of Langley AFB, and never goes
anywhere.


I choose Air Force One!

The E-4B unit is based at Offutt AFB. I think someone is confused and is
thinking about the USN TACAMO E-6B Mercury operated by Strategic
Communications Wing One.

Tex

Very true. I see them "Floating" over the Omaha area all the time doing
touch and go's and flyarounds.

Of course, E6's also haunt the area.

Bob



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"Leadfoot" wrote in message
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The C-17 will require several aerial refuelings. AF1 may or may not need
to
refuel in the air. The more tanker crews the more people who know the
president is going somewhere.

How would the tanker crews "know" who was on the C-17? There's no sign on
the tail, is there?

Gene Storey wrote:

747.

AF1 has IR jammers on the engines. The C-17 only has flares,
and they wouldn't be good for stealth arrival.


Can you give me a few clues on this? I don't understand how IR jammers
would work. If the radiation is being emitted, then it is being emitted.
It's not like swamping a signal with a whole bunch of noise, like radar
jammers. IE the radar needs the discrete frequency returns to decode the
signal, but IR just needs IR emmissions from a point source and then zeroes
in on the point source.

Thanks,
Nick