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GNS430 vs. GX60 - missing functions
This question particularly applies to the CAP mission pilots in the group:
we have been flying GX50 and 60s in our CAP birds, but I'm playing with a GNS430 in a private aircraft. There doesn't seem to be a correlation of the SAR functions in Garmin's unit like Apollo's. I'd like to know how others handle the missing functions. Do you manually create a flight plan with waypoints at the end of each grid leg? 30 years ago we only had to use pencil and charts, but now we have to demonstrate integration of the GPS into our search patterns. The Apollo makes it easy with the SAR map page; what am I missing on the Garmin? -- Jim Carter Rogers, Arkansas |
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GNS430 vs. GX60 - missing functions
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"Jim Carter" wrote: This question particularly applies to the CAP mission pilots in the group: we have been flying GX50 and 60s in our CAP birds, but I'm playing with a GNS430 in a private aircraft. There doesn't seem to be a correlation of the SAR functions in Garmin's unit like Apollo's. I'd like to know how others handle the missing functions. Do you manually create a flight plan with waypoints at the end of each grid leg? 30 years ago we only had to use pencil and charts, but now we have to demonstrate integration of the GPS into our search patterns. The Apollo makes it easy with the SAR map page; what am I missing on the Garmin? My understanding is that Apollo put specific functionality into their boxes to allow flying SAR grids specifically because they were chasing a big CAP contract. So, it's not surprising it's not in the Garmin boxes. |
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 14:09:15 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
In article , "Jim Carter" wrote: This question particularly applies to the CAP mission pilots in the group: we have been flying GX50 and 60s in our CAP birds, but I'm playing with a GNS430 in a private aircraft. There doesn't seem to be a correlation of the SAR functions in Garmin's unit like Apollo's. I'd like to know how others handle the missing functions. Do you manually create a flight plan with waypoints at the end of each grid leg? 30 years ago we only had to use pencil and charts, but now we have to demonstrate integration of the GPS into our search patterns. The Apollo makes it easy with the SAR map page; what am I missing on the Garmin? My understanding is that Apollo put specific functionality into their boxes to allow flying SAR grids specifically because they were chasing a big CAP contract. So, it's not surprising it's not in the Garmin boxes. The CAP version of the G1000 182 has search grids. |
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GNS430 vs. GX60 - missing functions
I thought I read that the 1000 uses the 400/500 series logic to drive it. If
that's so, then I wonder why the macro to generate the flight plan isn't retrofitted to the earlier units. -- Jim Carter Rogers, Arkansas "Peter Clark" wrote in message ... On Sun, 13 May 2007 14:09:15 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: In article , "Jim Carter" wrote: This question particularly applies to the CAP mission pilots in the group: we have been flying GX50 and 60s in our CAP birds, but I'm playing with a GNS430 in a private aircraft. There doesn't seem to be a correlation of the SAR functions in Garmin's unit like Apollo's. I'd like to know how others handle the missing functions. Do you manually create a flight plan with waypoints at the end of each grid leg? 30 years ago we only had to use pencil and charts, but now we have to demonstrate integration of the GPS into our search patterns. The Apollo makes it easy with the SAR map page; what am I missing on the Garmin? My understanding is that Apollo put specific functionality into their boxes to allow flying SAR grids specifically because they were chasing a big CAP contract. So, it's not surprising it's not in the Garmin boxes. The CAP version of the G1000 182 has search grids. |
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On May 13, 1:42 pm, Peter Clark
wrote: On Sun, 13 May 2007 14:09:15 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: In article , "Jim Carter" wrote: This question particularly applies to the CAP mission pilots in the group: we have been flying GX50 and 60s in our CAP birds, but I'm playing with a GNS430 in a private aircraft. There doesn't seem to be a correlation of the SAR functions in Garmin's unit like Apollo's. I'd like to know how others handle the missing functions. Do you manually create a flight plan with waypoints at the end of each grid leg? 30 years ago we only had to use pencil and charts, but now we have to demonstrate integration of the GPS into our search patterns. The Apollo makes it easy with the SAR map page; what am I missing on the Garmin? My understanding is that Apollo put specific functionality into their boxes to allow flying SAR grids specifically because they were chasing a big CAP contract. So, it's not surprising it's not in the Garmin boxes. The CAP version of the G1000 182 has search grids.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Interesting because our G1000 CAP 182 does not. We program in the 4 points of the grid and then create a flight plan around it. In fact that is one of the required exercies for observers to get signed off in the squadron. The observer basically owns the right screen and the pilot owns the left ( you can use the inset to see anything you would have seen on the right screen). |
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On 14 May 2007 15:25:19 -0700, "Robert M. Gary"
wrote: On May 13, 1:42 pm, Peter Clark wrote: The CAP version of the G1000 182 has search grids.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Interesting because our G1000 CAP 182 does not. We program in the 4 points of the grid and then create a flight plan around it. In fact that is one of the required exercies for observers to get signed off in the squadron. The observer basically owns the right screen and the pilot owns the left ( you can use the inset to see anything you would have seen on the right screen). When you dial the range down sufficiently does your system not draw grids? Or are we talking about two different things? |
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On May 14, 3:39 pm, Peter Clark
wrote: On 14 May 2007 15:25:19 -0700, "Robert M. Gary" wrote: On May 13, 1:42 pm, Peter Clark wrote: The CAP version of the G1000 182 has search grids.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Interesting because our G1000 CAP 182 does not. We program in the 4 points of the grid and then create a flight plan around it. In fact that is one of the required exercies for observers to get signed off in the squadron. The observer basically owns the right screen and the pilot owns the left ( you can use the inset to see anything you would have seen on the right screen). When you dial the range down sufficiently does your system not draw grids? Or are we talking about two different things? It shows the same section grid lines that any G1000 does but it does not allow you to flight plan to a CAP named grid like our GX60 (with CAP database) did. -Robert |
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GNS430 vs. GX60 - missing functions
The GX 50/60 series puts the grid lines on the quadrangle with WPTs at each
turnpoint. Does the G1000 do the same? But back to any of the non-GX 50/60 class; does the aircrew just calculate and program in the WPTs by hand, or do they use the old pencil and chart method to layout the grid track? -- Jim Carter Rogers, Arkansas "Peter Clark" wrote in message ... On 14 May 2007 15:25:19 -0700, "Robert M. Gary" wrote: On May 13, 1:42 pm, Peter Clark wrote: The CAP version of the G1000 182 has search grids.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Interesting because our G1000 CAP 182 does not. We program in the 4 points of the grid and then create a flight plan around it. In fact that is one of the required exercies for observers to get signed off in the squadron. The observer basically owns the right screen and the pilot owns the left ( you can use the inset to see anything you would have seen on the right screen). When you dial the range down sufficiently does your system not draw grids? Or are we talking about two different things? |
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Peter Clark wrote:
My understanding is that Apollo put specific functionality into their boxes to allow flying SAR grids specifically because they were chasing a big CAP contract. So, it's not surprising it's not in the Garmin boxes. The CAP version of the G1000 182 has search grids. Um... ours does not have it yet: N652CP, T182T/Nav III, Colorado Wing. Did you get this with a software upgrade, or is there some "bump and twist" of the knobs that I have not read about? Please share how to turn on G1000 182 has search grids. Thank you! Best regards, LtCol Jer/ Eberhard, Colorado Wing Checkpilot (airplanes and gliders), Assistant Glider Program Manager, Colorado Wing, CAP -- LtCol Jer/ Eberhard, CO-Wing, Thompson Valley CS., Ft Collins, CO CELL/VM: 970 231-6325 EMAIL: jer'at'frii.com WEB: http://users.frii.com/jer/ C-206 N9513G, CFII Airplane&Glider FAA-DEN Aviation Safety Counselor CAP-CO Mission&Aircraft CheckPilot BM218 HAM N0FZD 247 Young Eagles! |
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