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"S Green" wrote in message
... Nothing worse than getting reports that are no help and just increase your anxiety level. lying in the South Midlands near Oxford UK, I was about to call up RAF Brize Norton for the lowest level service, Flight Information. The controller was telling another pilot first to contact somewhere else as he was too busy (the other pilot said that he was told by the other place to contact BN because they were too busy) and that he only had secondary radar so and traffic without a transponder was not on his screen. As we had no transponder decided that I would not add to the work load but it was very busy today as we all crammed in under class A airspace with a base at FL45 dropping to 2500ft within 15 miles. Mmm yes. Probably the busiest GA day here in the UK so far this year. You were up too eh? I was formation training over in Essex (flying from North Weald). The entire light aircraft population of the South East seemed to be up. As I was flying over there passing Elstree I heard a plane take off from there that I used to fly at Cardiff. So many cool things going on from North Weald. On Saturday I saw two Gnats, a Hunter and the only flying (out of 11 made) JP1 go off in formation. On Sunday I saw them come back. Talked to a couple of the pilots. The Aerostars (Yak formation team) were up and about both days too. Various other JPs were flying around. Also met the UK dealer for Decathlons and the UK dealer for PZLs. Nice weather! Paul |
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 16:56:34 GMT, Bela P. Havasreti
wrote: I'll try to be nice and say you are welcome to consider getting flight following services "mandatory" whenever you fly. My personal opinion, is that primary see & avoid techniques are not being adequately taught these days, and (perhaps?) too much emphasis is put on relying on systems (radios, flight following, etc.). Bela, there is a columnist who writes a monthly article for AVWeb. He is a traffic controller for the Atlanta area. His name is Don Brown and you should read his column number 37. The title is VFR in a Vacuum, and the blurb goes: "Have you been turned down lately when you asked ATC for VFR advisories? Expect it to happen more and more often, especially when you and other pilots don't file a correct flight plan or use the proper phraseology. AVweb's Don Brown points out how the impending controller shortage will reduce the additional services ATC can provide." So it appears that while requesting flight following is a good idea for cross country flights, unless a lot of new controllers are brought on line, it will be increasingly difficult for them to handle non IFR requests. Corky Scott |
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:09:28 GMT, Roger Halstead
wrote: I've found that a simple and relaxed request such as "MBS approach, this is Debonair Eight Thirty Three Romeo out of Midland Barstow for Muncie Indiana. I'd like flight following if you have time". Well yes, except that I was taught to give more information than that during the initial call in. Example: "Boston Center, Cessna 123 Alpha is departing Lebanon direct to Glenn's Fall's, climbing through 3,000 for 6,500 and is now five miles west of Lebanon. I'd like to have flight following, if you have time." Or wait until I've reached cruising altitude and call in at that height. The first time I tried to contact Center during a dual cross country, the instructor spelled out what he expected me to say and allowed me to run it through in my mind for a few minutes before I keyed the mike. Screwed it up anyway, but Center was patient with me. What I've noticed is that even with practice, it's not easy to fly the airplane, write down the requested frequency changes as I get handoff's to be sure I got it right, and respond quickly on the radio all at the same time. While I'm writing, Center is asking me to aknowledge the frequency change. Now that I know what's expected of me, I can of course look up the frequencies and write them down in sequence during flight planning and just check it off when the time comes, I suppose. Corky Scott |
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