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![]() What do airmen feel the appropriate penalty might be? http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsite...04-1-087x.html FAA grants AOPA demand for investigation into Meigs closure Feb. 11 — AOPA's claim that the city of Chicago violated federal law and aviation regulations when it shut down Meigs Field last March has merit, says the FAA, and will be investigated. AOPA filed a formal complaint following the destruction of Meigs's runway on Mayor Richard M. Daley's order, claiming the city failed to provide adequate notice, as required by the FARs. The complaint will not result in the airport's reopening but can lead to the mayor and the city being punished for their actions. "AOPA intends to push for the appropriate penalty to be imposed on the city," said AOPA President Phil Boyer. "Mayor Daley and any other state or local official who may want to follow Daley's lead must be made to understand they cannot unilaterally change the National Airspace System." The manager of the FAA's Enforcement Division sent a letter of response to AOPA's complaint against both the mayor and the city, saying "reasonable grounds exist" to begin an informal investigation into the allegations. AOPA maintains that Daley and the city of Chicago violated both the U.S. Code and Federal Aviation Regulations. The U.S. Code states that an airport or landing area not involving the expenditure of federal money may be altered substantially "only if the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration is given reasonable prior notice, so that the Administrator may provide advice on the effects" of the alteration. In order for the administrator to carry out that obligation, Federal Aviation Regulations state that anyone intending to alter a runway, deactivate a runway or airport, or change the status of an airport must submit notice of that intent at least 90 days prior to taking such action. The FARs do provide for immediate emergency action, such as in the case of national security, which was Daley's original claim. However, even in the case of an emergency, if the airport has a charted instrument approach, which Meigs Field did, a minimum of 30 days' notice must be given. .... |
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![]() Larry Dighera wrote: What do airmen feel the appropriate penalty might be? A ban on holding any type of political post for the remainder of his life. George Patterson A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you look forward to the trip. |
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:05:13 GMT, "G.R. Patterson III"
wrote in Message-Id: : Larry Dighera wrote: What do airmen feel the appropriate penalty might be? A ban on holding any type of political post for the remainder of his life. He'd just run his wife as a candidate. But the penalty is to levied against the city of Chicago if I'm not mistaken. |
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Larry Dighera wrote:
But the penalty is to levied against the city of Chicago if I'm not mistaken. Fine the city all funds paid for Meigs over all time multiplied by some "penalty clause" factor. This would never happen again. - Andrew |
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On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:41:17 -0500, Andrew Gideon
wrote in Message-Id: ne.com: Larry Dighera wrote: But the penalty is to levied against the city of Chicago if I'm not mistaken. Fine the city all funds paid for Meigs over all time multiplied by some "penalty clause" factor. This would never happen again. - Andrew Unfortunately, it looks like the fine, _IF_ Daley is found guilty, is going to be $1,100.00 per day. But the real question here is, why did it take AOPA to demand FAA enforce the notice provision requirements? Or, what prevented the FAA from imposing the mandated fine on Chicago for Daily's hubris in the first place? Does the Chicago boss have the Administrator under mob control? ------------------------------------------------------------------- AVflash Volume 10, Number 08a -- February 16, 2004 ------------------------------------------------------------------- CHICAGO FACES LITTLE FINES FOR MEIGS The city of Chicago could face almost $100,000 in fines for its sudden closure of Meigs Field last March 30 but an incipient FAA investigation won't bring the beloved airport back to life. As AVweb told you last Thursday, the FAA has agreed (almost a year later) to an investigation into the late-night destruction of Meigs' lone runway while aircraft were parked on the ramp. The closure allegedly violated notice provisions, which require an airport owner to provide at least 30 and up to 90 days of warning to the FAA that it intends to close an airport. Mayor Richard Daley at midnight sent a battalion of heavy equipment, under police guard, into the sealed-off airport and ordered workmen to carve large X's out of the runway. http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#186723 ....CLOSURE NOTICE NOT SUPPLIED... Soon after the excavators had done their work, the FAA acknowledged that Daley had the legal right to close the airport. However, federal law requires that an airport owner give at least 90 days of notice. In an emergency, or for national security concerns, only 30 days of notice is required if the airport has a published instrument approach, which Meigs had. Chicago notified the FAA of Meigs' closure the day after the runway was wrecked. If the FAA finds Chicago guilty, it can fine the city $1,100 per day for anywhere from two to 90 days of absent notice. http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#186724 ....FRIENDS LOOK FOR BRIGHT SIDE Chicago officials have vigorously defended Meigs' closure and the relatively small fine isn't going to change their minds on the future of the airport. However, Meigs supporters did their best to draw what encouragement they could from the announcement of the investigation. "It's good there will be an investigation and the public will hear about it," said Rachel Goodstein, president of Friends of Meigs (FOM). The group also hopes the investigation will raise the profile of an alternative plan they've devised for Meigs that would include a park and an airport. http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#186725 |
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![]() Larry Dighera wrote: But the penalty is to levied against the city of Chicago if I'm not mistaken. You're probably right. AOPA talks about "the mayor and the city being punished", but then talks about the "appropriate penalty to be imposed on the city". George Patterson A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you look forward to the trip. |
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Take the "Mob Boss of The Month" award certificate away from him ... ;-)
-- -- =----- Good Flights! Cecil PP-ASEL Check out my personal flying adventures complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - "We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet" - Cecil Day Lewis - A ban on holding any type of political post for the remainder of his life. George Patterson A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you look forward to the trip. |
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What do airmen feel the appropriate penalty might be?
Turn his house into a heliport. Jose -- (for Email, make the obvious changes in my address) |
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Make him live in the derelict FBO through a Chicago winter without any
utilities. Actually, I like George's suggestion better. -- Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways) "Teacherjh" wrote in message ... What do airmen feel the appropriate penalty might be? Turn his house into a heliport. Jose -- (for Email, make the obvious changes in my address) |
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Ban him from flying on any aircraft for 10 years. Let him ride the bus. Big John On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:58:28 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote: What do airmen feel the appropriate penalty might be? http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsite...04-1-087x.html FAA grants AOPA demand for investigation into Meigs closure Feb. 11 — AOPA's claim that the city of Chicago violated federal law and aviation regulations when it shut down Meigs Field last March has merit, says the FAA, and will be investigated. AOPA filed a formal complaint following the destruction of Meigs's runway on Mayor Richard M. Daley's order, claiming the city failed to provide adequate notice, as required by the FARs. The complaint will not result in the airport's reopening but can lead to the mayor and the city being punished for their actions. "AOPA intends to push for the appropriate penalty to be imposed on the city," said AOPA President Phil Boyer. "Mayor Daley and any other state or local official who may want to follow Daley's lead must be made to understand they cannot unilaterally change the National Airspace System." The manager of the FAA's Enforcement Division sent a letter of response to AOPA's complaint against both the mayor and the city, saying "reasonable grounds exist" to begin an informal investigation into the allegations. AOPA maintains that Daley and the city of Chicago violated both the U.S. Code and Federal Aviation Regulations. The U.S. Code states that an airport or landing area not involving the expenditure of federal money may be altered substantially "only if the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration is given reasonable prior notice, so that the Administrator may provide advice on the effects" of the alteration. In order for the administrator to carry out that obligation, Federal Aviation Regulations state that anyone intending to alter a runway, deactivate a runway or airport, or change the status of an airport must submit notice of that intent at least 90 days prior to taking such action. The FARs do provide for immediate emergency action, such as in the case of national security, which was Daley's original claim. However, even in the case of an emergency, if the airport has a charted instrument approach, which Meigs Field did, a minimum of 30 days' notice must be given. ... |
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