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Old January 25th 07, 07:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Jim Macklin
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FAASafety.gov - Local Air Safety Information "Fort Worth
Meacham (FTW) Departure Procedures"
http://www.faasafety.gov/

This applies anywhere
Fort Worth Meacham (FTW) Departure Procedures
Notice Number: NOTC0768
There have been several instances of aircraft deviating from
their ATC clearance when departing Fort Worth Meacham
airport (FTW) over the last few months. The pilots involved
have generally been experienced instrument pilots flying
technically advanced aircraft.
In these instances, all of the aircraft have been cleared to
fly runway heading for radar vectors to a published
departure procedure in their clearance from departure
control. Each of the aircraft has made an inappropriate turn
after takeoff either to join the course for the departure
they were assigned or in following a procedure that is
printed on the chart.
When ATC issues a clearance to fly a heading for vectors to
a departure, the vectors will supersede any other navigation
related instructions printed on the chart. You are not
authorized to fly the departure until ATC either issues a
heading to join a published course or clears you direct to a
fix on your routes and issues instructions to "resume own
navigation."
Pilots are reminded to be vigilant in following ATC issued
clearances and urged to ask to have the clearance clarified
if the instructions are not fully understood.
FAASafety.gov https://www.faasafety.gov/SPANS/
http://www.faasafety.gov/about/


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Old January 25th 07, 08:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Sam Spade
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Default Departure procedures notice

Air carrier training must really be in the tank these days.

Jim Macklin wrote:
FAASafety.gov - Local Air Safety Information "Fort Worth
Meacham (FTW) Departure Procedures"
http://www.faasafety.gov/

This applies anywhere
Fort Worth Meacham (FTW) Departure Procedures
Notice Number: NOTC0768
There have been several instances of aircraft deviating from
their ATC clearance when departing Fort Worth Meacham
airport (FTW) over the last few months. The pilots involved
have generally been experienced instrument pilots flying
technically advanced aircraft.
In these instances, all of the aircraft have been cleared to
fly runway heading for radar vectors to a published
departure procedure in their clearance from departure
control. Each of the aircraft has made an inappropriate turn
after takeoff either to join the course for the departure
they were assigned or in following a procedure that is
printed on the chart.
When ATC issues a clearance to fly a heading for vectors to
a departure, the vectors will supersede any other navigation
related instructions printed on the chart. You are not
authorized to fly the departure until ATC either issues a
heading to join a published course or clears you direct to a
fix on your routes and issues instructions to "resume own
navigation."
Pilots are reminded to be vigilant in following ATC issued
clearances and urged to ask to have the clearance clarified
if the instructions are not fully understood.
FAASafety.gov https://www.faasafety.gov/SPANS/
http://www.faasafety.gov/about/


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Old January 25th 07, 08:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Allen[_1_]
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Default Departure procedures notice


"Sam Spade" wrote in message
...
Air carrier training must really be in the tank these days.

Not to many air carriers flying off Meacham

Allen


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Old January 25th 07, 09:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Sam Spade
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Default Departure procedures notice

Allen wrote:
"Sam Spade" wrote in message
...

Air carrier training must really be in the tank these days.


Not to many air carriers flying off Meacham

Allen


I had a brain fade I was thinking of DFW with the same issues.

Training seems to suck for all segments of the IFR flying pilots these days.
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Old January 25th 07, 10:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
C J Campbell
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Default Departure procedures notice

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:40:27 -0800, Jim Macklin wrote
(in article ):

FAASafety.gov - Local Air Safety Information "Fort Worth
Meacham (FTW) Departure Procedures"
http://www.faasafety.gov/

This applies anywhere
Fort Worth Meacham (FTW) Departure Procedures
Notice Number: NOTC0768
There have been several instances of aircraft deviating from
their ATC clearance when departing Fort Worth Meacham
airport (FTW) over the last few months. The pilots involved
have generally been experienced instrument pilots flying
technically advanced aircraft.
In these instances, all of the aircraft have been cleared to
fly runway heading for radar vectors to a published
departure procedure in their clearance from departure
control. Each of the aircraft has made an inappropriate turn
after takeoff either to join the course for the departure
they were assigned or in following a procedure that is
printed on the chart.


They had a rash of that at Riverside, CA a few years ago. (For all I know, it
is still a problem there.)

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

 




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