Syrian MiG-21 in trouble

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Cheers

Dave Kearton

I wonder if the rotation to inverted is a component of loss of control
or the pilot thinking he has a better chance for successful ejection by
shooting himself down. Bad habit to learn, however, if you are on the
ground.

Cheers,

Dave

CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:

I wonder if the rotation to inverted is a component of loss of control
or the pilot thinking he has a better chance for successful ejection by
shooting himself down. Bad habit to learn, however, if you are on the
ground.

Cheers,

Dave



I think that I would go with the "loss of control" proposition as has
been evidenced in both, military and commercial crashes.

I clearly remember the instructions when regarding OV-1 ejections that a
"nose up" attitude was highly desired.

Came close a couple of times but never had to "pull the pin."

JT

Grumpy AuContraire wrote:


CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:

I wonder if the rotation to inverted is a component of loss of control
or the pilot thinking he has a better chance for successful ejection
by shooting himself down. Bad habit to learn, however, if you are on
the ground.

Cheers,

Dave



I think that I would go with the "loss of control" proposition as has
been evidenced in both, military and commercial crashes.

I clearly remember the instructions when regarding OV-1 ejections that a
"nose up" attitude was highly desired.

Came close a couple of times but never had to "pull the pin."

JT



Nose up even if you enter a stall environment. The tail reminded me of
a Ginzu Tomato slicer as seen on TV.

Sure wish I could find one of those South American 'hawks that would
make it back to here. And of course, that includes winning the
PowerBall so I could afford it. Imagine having the "Pimp my Ride" crew
do up your hawk.

Sweet.

Cheers,

Dave

CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:

Grumpy AuContraire wrote:



CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:

I wonder if the rotation to inverted is a component of loss of
control or the pilot thinking he has a better chance for successful
ejection by shooting himself down. Bad habit to learn, however, if
you are on the ground.

Cheers,

Dave



I think that I would go with the "loss of control" proposition as has
been evidenced in both, military and commercial crashes.

I clearly remember the instructions when regarding OV-1 ejections that
a "nose up" attitude was highly desired.

Came close a couple of times but never had to "pull the pin."

JT



Nose up even if you enter a stall environment. The tail reminded me of
a Ginzu Tomato slicer as seen on TV.

Sure wish I could find one of those South American 'hawks that would
make it back to here. And of course, that includes winning the
PowerBall so I could afford it. Imagine having the "Pimp my Ride" crew
do up your hawk.

Sweet.

Cheers,

Dave


Well, I do have a "hawk," but it wasn't built by Grumman...

JT

Grumpy AuContraire wrote:


CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:

Grumpy AuContraire wrote:



CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:

I wonder if the rotation to inverted is a component of loss of
control or the pilot thinking he has a better chance for successful
ejection by shooting himself down. Bad habit to learn, however, if
you are on the ground.

Cheers,

Dave



I think that I would go with the "loss of control" proposition as has
been evidenced in both, military and commercial crashes.

I clearly remember the instructions when regarding OV-1 ejections
that a "nose up" attitude was highly desired.

Came close a couple of times but never had to "pull the pin."

JT



Nose up even if you enter a stall environment. The tail reminded me
of a Ginzu Tomato slicer as seen on TV.

Sure wish I could find one of those South American 'hawks that would
make it back to here. And of course, that includes winning the
PowerBall so I could afford it. Imagine having the "Pimp my Ride"
crew do up your hawk.

Sweet.

Cheers,

Dave


Well, I do have a "hawk," but it wasn't built by Grumman...

JT




OMG! The stories I could tell you about my adventure with two Golden
Hawks with less than 25,000 miles both parked and covered in a garage in
the small town of Mann's Crossing, PA. Plus one of my best friends, Tom
LeJeune (Panel 01W - Line 37) had one that would smoke the roads between
Fort Holabird, MD and West Miflin, PA.

I once got a great tour of the Avanti factory production line when after
the Avanti had been bought out. I did an inspection at the AMG
Factory in South Bend and the security manager took me over to see the
line. Man if I hadn't been only an SSG at the time, I would have driven
one back to DC. $19,500 and drive away.

Tell me about yours!!!! Please!!!

Dave