BUSH HIDES THE BODY BAGS...

From: c
Date: 11/8/2003 9:42 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Don't Mention the Dead
When the body of US soldier Artimus Brassfield was flown to the
military mortuary at Dover, Delaware, there were no TV pictures of a
flag-covered coffin and hero's salute - the White House has banned
media coverage at the base. But can Bush's efforts to hide the body
bags quell growing public disquiet over the death toll in Iraq?
by Gary Younge
story is he
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1107-01.htm

Published on Friday, November 7, 2003 by the Guardian/UK

This has been the official Pentagon policy since 1991. Nice try.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

B2431 wrote:
From: c
Date: 11/8/2003 9:42 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Don't Mention the Dead
When the body of US soldier Artimus Brassfield was flown to the
military mortuary at Dover, Delaware, there were no TV pictures of a
flag-covered coffin and hero's salute - the White House has banned
media coverage at the base. But can Bush's efforts to hide the body
bags quell growing public disquiet over the death toll in Iraq?
by Gary Younge
story is he
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1107-01.htm

Published on Friday, November 7, 2003 by the Guardian/UK

This has been the official Pentagon policy since 1991. Nice try.

So what? It's not a law and, even if it was, it could and should be changed.
It's a matter of showing respect and, if there happens to be a political price
to pay to do that, then so be it. There's a price being paid for not doing it
and the longer making that change is put off, the higher that price becomes.
It's the President's choice, and he's the one who's going to pay if he guesses
wrong.

George Z.

It's not a Pentagon policy, it's a White House policy that was first seen in
the 91' Gulf War.

It didn't stop Clinton meeting the Military dead off the plane, something
which GW Bush seems to think is beyond him.

Matt

"B2431" wrote in message
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From: c
Date: 11/8/2003 9:42 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Don't Mention the Dead
When the body of US soldier Artimus Brassfield was flown to the
military mortuary at Dover, Delaware, there were no TV pictures of a
flag-covered coffin and hero's salute - the White House has banned
media coverage at the base. But can Bush's efforts to hide the body
bags quell growing public disquiet over the death toll in Iraq?
by Gary Younge
story is he
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1107-01.htm

Published on Friday, November 7, 2003 by the Guardian/UK

This has been the official Pentagon policy since 1991. Nice try.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Only Bob Dole, who was the real thing, got solid military votes.

Uhh, Mr. Democrat.com, you might want to check the number/percentage of
military votes Bush got compared to Gore.

The Democrats or the GOP? At
the rate we are going, the post war death toll will be about 3x the
war death toll. What a waste of life.

A waste of life? You sir, not suprisingly, are the lowest form of life I've
seen on these boards. Those young men who have died have only wasted their
lives if Iraq is not established as a stable, peaceful nation and its far to
early to make that determination. I'm looking forward to you political
commercials next year in the run-up to the election, how low can you go?


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

Let's use Afghanistan as an example. In theory, the war is over there,
even though the president didn't hitch a ride onto a carrier deck.
Look at this phrase in the Afghanistan constitution:

'It says Islam is Afghanistan's religion and "no law will be made
which will oppose the principles of Islam".'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanista...076321,00.html

Yeah, some democracy. However, a certain party is declaring (cough
cough) "Mission Accomplished."



(BUFDRVR) wrote in message ...
Only Bob Dole, who was the real thing, got solid military votes.

Uhh, Mr. Democrat.com, you might want to check the number/percentage of
military votes Bush got compared to Gore.

The Democrats or the GOP? At
the rate we are going, the post war death toll will be about 3x the
war death toll. What a waste of life.

A waste of life? You sir, not suprisingly, are the lowest form of life I've
seen on these boards. Those young men who have died have only wasted their
lives if Iraq is not established as a stable, peaceful nation and its far to
early to make that determination. I'm looking forward to you political
commercials next year in the run-up to the election, how low can you go?


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

wrote:
Let's use Afghanistan as an example. In theory, the war is over there,
even though the president didn't hitch a ride onto a carrier deck.
Look at this phrase in the Afghanistan constitution:

'It says Islam is Afghanistan's religion and "no law will be made
which will oppose the principles of Islam".'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanista...076321,00.html

Yeah, some democracy. However, a certain party is declaring (cough
cough) "Mission Accomplished."


I think you're confusing the two conflicts.....I don't believe anybody claimed
the war in Afghanistan was over. OBL is still running around loose and,
according to 60 Minutes, the only part of Afghanistan that's reasonably safe is
the area around Kabul. The rest of the country is apparently still no-man's
land, with the Taliban and war lords fighting over some parts, and opium (and
heroin) producing poppies growing everywhere.

Do we pick our wars, or what!!!

George Z.

Well, yeah, Karzai (sp) is the mayor of Kabul, not the president of
Afghanistan. However, my point is still valid in that American's died
so that they can have a constitution in Afghanistan that says Islam is
the Afghanistan religion. I don't think that was one of the goals of
the war.


"George Z. Bush" wrote in message ...
wrote:
Let's use Afghanistan as an example. In theory, the war is over there,
even though the president didn't hitch a ride onto a carrier deck.
Look at this phrase in the Afghanistan constitution:

'It says Islam is Afghanistan's religion and "no law will be made
which will oppose the principles of Islam".'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanista...076321,00.html

Yeah, some democracy. However, a certain party is declaring (cough
cough) "Mission Accomplished."


I think you're confusing the two conflicts.....I don't believe anybody claimed
the war in Afghanistan was over. OBL is still running around loose and,
according to 60 Minutes, the only part of Afghanistan that's reasonably safe is
the area around Kabul. The rest of the country is apparently still no-man's
land, with the Taliban and war lords fighting over some parts, and opium (and
heroin) producing poppies growing everywhere.

Do we pick our wars, or what!!!

George Z.

I'm not really bent out of shape over what's in the Afghanistan constitution. I
look at TV pictures coming out of Kabul and see women walking around without
those god-awful head-to-toe robes on, and I see girl children in school being
educated, and that's enough of an improvement for me to not worry too much about
how they're going to pray. That's their choice anyway.

George Z.

" wrote in message
om...
Well, yeah, Karzai (sp) is the mayor of Kabul, not the president of
Afghanistan. However, my point is still valid in that American's died
so that they can have a constitution in Afghanistan that says Islam is
the Afghanistan religion. I don't think that was one of the goals of
the war.


"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Let's use Afghanistan as an example. In theory, the war is over there,
even though the president didn't hitch a ride onto a carrier deck.
Look at this phrase in the Afghanistan constitution:

'It says Islam is Afghanistan's religion and "no law will be made
which will oppose the principles of Islam".'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanista...076321,00.html

Yeah, some democracy. However, a certain party is declaring (cough
cough) "Mission Accomplished."


I think you're confusing the two conflicts.....I don't believe anybody
claimed
the war in Afghanistan was over. OBL is still running around loose and,
according to 60 Minutes, the only part of Afghanistan that's reasonably safe
is
the area around Kabul. The rest of the country is apparently still no-man's
land, with the Taliban and war lords fighting over some parts, and opium
(and
heroin) producing poppies growing everywhere.

Do we pick our wars, or what!!!

George Z.

BUFDRVR wrote:

The Democrats or the GOP? At
the rate we are going, the post war death toll will be about 3x the
war death toll. What a waste of life.

A waste of life? You sir, not suprisingly, are the lowest form of life I've
seen on these boards. Those young men who have died have only wasted their
lives if Iraq is not established as a stable, peaceful nation and its far to
early to make that determination. I'm looking forward to you political
commercials next year in the run-up to the election, how low can you go?

Even if these guys were against the idea of war in Iraq, it *has happened*!
Now they should move on to dealing with it, rather than fight the "whether we
should" battle all over!

I get the impression that some of these folks are so deep in their anti-Bush
hatreds that they would happily recreate a new domestic political climate
similar to Vietnam War circa 1970 if they could.

Let the US take a huge defeat in Iraq if it will further their anti-Bush
agendas. Really disgusting!


SMH

I would have loved to hear your comments during Okinawa, or Gettysburg.
Some things are worth figthing and dying for, Peace in the Mid-East
(by way of Democracy) surely is worth it, isn't it?

Only if your political party is the one making the policy. This goes for
Republicans (guilty of such actions in '99) as well as Democrats. We've come
to a point in this nation when political parties take presedence over the
nation as a whole. There are Democrats that celebrate every time a US solider
is killed in Iraq.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"