John T wrote:

Listen. They *knew* they'd be dealing with the ADIZ.

There's a fair amount of evidence that they didn't know but won't admit it.
There was a post in the last two days to the effect that the FAA found a
pre-9-11 chart in the aircraft and that the pilots intended to fly the old VFR
exclusion through the class-B. I'm looking forward to AOPA's analysis of the
hearings, once those are done. The FAA isn't going to tell what it knows until
the hearings, and the PIC isn't ever going to tell what he knows.

George Patterson
"Naked" means you ain't got no clothes on; "nekkid" means you ain't got
no clothes on - and are up to somethin'.