For the record: I am not BWB

RU ok wrote in message . ..
On 07 Jan 2004 11:18 PM, pacplyer posted the following:

Hey BOb if you can read this, I could really use your advise here.
I've agitated with the lunar jokes and stuck my nose in to this
fued where it doesn't belong. What should I do to get out of this
graveyard spiral? Any ideas?

I'm not BOb but the first rule of holes comes to mind.


Del Rawlins-
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Del,

You're kinda young to be admired by an old phart,
but damn, you have posted some good stuff, lately.


Barnyard BOb - over 50 years of successful flight

I agree, for a junior birdman, he comes up with some good ones.

pacplyer

On 7 Jan 2004 10:36:52 -0800, wrote:

I guess that I will take the opportunity to top post here, as see no
point in doing it the other way if I am following the thread.

As one of the first (and very few) participants in the first fly-in at
PJY, I would like to help set the record straight. As a close
associate of Bill Phillips, I can assure you that he never wanted to
keep JRJ from hosting the Pinckneville event. The Jean (NV) event,
which Bill and I coordinated, was never intended to replace any other
fly-in. It was intended as an event for those who could not make it
all the way from the west coast to PJY. Highflyer did attend, and he
flew out in a Cessna 175. He has lots of stories about that trip.

JRJ is a fine person and his wife Mary is a Saint. Pinckneyville
itself does have some shortcomings, and these were expressed on this
group by Bill and myself. The fly-in is what you make of it. It
(after four trips) just was not worth the 1200 mile trip.

I wish that JRJ would participate more in this group. He and Mary
paid me a personal visit at The Selma Aerodrome , and I would welcome
both of them here again.

Like me, I think that John stayed with the group as long as he felt
that it was worth the effort. You should notice (and may welcome) the
fact that I also now rarely post here.

Robert G. (O-ring) Seals


Let me be obnoxiously precise.

Badwater decided that JRJ should no longer host the RAH fly in at Pinkneyville,
and proposed his own at Jean.

He posted frequently about what a very bad person JRJ was, and how bad
Pinkneyville was (both as a fly-in and as a city)

Thereafter, JRJ's participation here was greatly reduced.

That may be due to changes in his life unrelated to the newsgroup. But I have
assumed it was due to the newsgroup becoming a hostile place, because of "BWB's
antics."

(Snowbird) wrote in message . com...
(pacplyer) wrote in message om...

Hey BOb if you can read this, I could really use your advise here.
I've agitated with the lunar jokes and stuck my nose in to this
fued where it doesn't belong. What should I do to get out of this
graveyard spiral? Any ideas?

Any help is appreciated,

There's a saying: "Even a Fish wouldn't get into
trouble if it kept its Mouth shut

I think there's a corellary for typing

Helpful Sydney

Pac says:

Thanks Snowbird. Then why didn't BOb attack me all this time? He's
clearly the Godfather in this family. :-) While I'm sure he doesn't
like my stuff at all, or me, and thinks I'm a loudmouth, which I am, I
admire the way he's regulated this NG. Although Larry hates it, I
think Uncle BOb has consistantly been fair to everybody. And I admire
your and "a"'s ability to stand up to the hitler youth without
flinching. Most people would have slurked off and crawled into a
bottle. That says alot about your character.

"BREAK/BREAK, ,"

I'll be cruising above the cloud deck, minding my own business and
then you dive out of the sun and throw all this extra baggage on top
of me. Every time I dip down into the clouds with you, I pick up a
****load of ice.

I keep telling you "a," those aren't my bags. You're putting them on
the wrong flight. :-) And when I figure out how to do pictures I'll
prove it to you.

I thought the rec in this newsgroup stood for recreation. But maybe
it's rectal constipation instead. LOL!

Despair not, oh, all you lurkers: one of these days the Rah family
will let you state an opinion here.

;-)

pacplyer

RU ok wrote in message . ..
Sydney, that would be .....

'corollary'.

And for pac --

it would be...

'advice'

Helpful and advising BOb --

Darling Unk,

It's a comfort to know that with you (and a bottle
of muzzleloader) at hand, a dictionary will not be
needed to enliven the party

Spelling-impaired Sydney

On 08 Jan 2004 01:24 PM, pacplyer posted the following:

I agree, for a junior birdman, he comes up with some good ones.

Just remember I'll be flying around long after your medical is gone. So
be nice, because you might want a ride someday. 8^)

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"O-ring Seals" wrote

I would like to help set the record straight.

This should be interesting.

As a close associate of Bill Phillips, I can assure you that he never wanted to
keep JRJ from hosting the Pinckneville event.

Pray tell us how would you possibly stop him considering it was his
home airport, hosted in his hangar, with surprisingly enough himself
and his wife as host and hostess.

The Jean (NV) event, which Bill and I coordinated, was never intended
to replace any other fly-in.

Gag me with a spoon.

Pinckneyville itself does have some shortcomings,

Couldn't prove that by the positive comments the bunion has been
reading from the regulars in this group who have been attending these
last number of years and posting rave revues after each and every
fly in.

and these were expressed on this group by Bill and myself.

Correct this bunion if I'm wrong but didn't most of Bill's opinions
revolve around a sack of beer and a couple of bucks as well as the
well used "C" word from Bill's mouth and how it pertained to a certain
female pilot who is not only a regular to this group but also a regular
at the Pinckneyville fly in.

The fly-in is what you make of it.

All fly ins are what the participants make of it, unfortunately your
good friend Bill decided to try to grind this one into the dust in the
most personal and vile way possible.

I wish that JRJ would participate more in this group.

After the way he was publicly treated in this group by Bill and a few
others who could blame him for dropping out.

Morgans wrote:

I second your recollections.

Google is your friend and you might wish to refresh your memory by
spending a few hours with your friend Google.

In addition to your comments, I would add that the ill will that developed,
came from the manner in which Bill expressed the shortcomings, and
why they were going to prevent him from returning.
Other people (not Bill or John) interpreted, and blew up those opinions,
until it was a real mess.

That was my take on it, in my recollections.

Whatever you wish to believe Morgans but don't be surprised if others
in this group have a vastly different recollections of the events in
question.

Anyone else in this group want to take a stab at their recollections of
the events of that particular spring and summer....... Anyone...?????

As usual everyone's favourite Bunion......
Bernie

On 08 Jan 2004 07:24 PM, Here We Go Again posted the following:
same old **** snipped

That will be quite enough. There is nothing new that can possibly be
posted about this argument, and it would be considerate of those
interested to just let the thread die. Neither of the principal
antagonists are even posting here currently. For once, let it drop. We
don't need to go there again.

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Oh, and by the way. Bernie, you once claimed that the only reason you
were around was to harass Phillips. He is gone, so WTF are you still
doing here?

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"O-ring Seals" wrote in message
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On 7 Jan 2004 10:36:52 -0800, wrote:

I guess that I will take the opportunity to top post here, as see no
point in doing it the other way if I am following the thread.

As one of the first (and very few) participants in the first fly-in at
PJY, I would like to help set the record straight. As a close
associate of Bill Phillips, I can assure you that he never wanted to
keep JRJ from hosting the Pinckneville event. The Jean (NV) event,
which Bill and I coordinated, was never intended to replace any other
fly-in. It was intended as an event for those who could not make it
all the way from the west coast to PJY. Highflyer did attend, and he
flew out in a Cessna 175. He has lots of stories about that trip.

JRJ is a fine person and his wife Mary is a Saint. Pinckneyville
itself does have some shortcomings, and these were expressed on this
group by Bill and myself. The fly-in is what you make of it. It
(after four trips) just was not worth the 1200 mile trip.

I wish that JRJ would participate more in this group. He and Mary
paid me a personal visit at The Selma Aerodrome , and I would welcome
both of them here again.

Like me, I think that John stayed with the group as long as he felt
that it was worth the effort. You should notice (and may welcome) the
fact that I also now rarely post here.

Robert G. (O-ring) Seals

I second your recollections. In addition to your comments, I would add that
the ill will that developed, came from the manner in which Bill expressed
the shortcomings, and why they were going to prevent him from returning.
Other people (not Bill or John) interpreted, and blew up those opinions,
until it was a real mess. That was my take on it, in my recollections.
--
Jim in NC

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 04:24:35 GMT, Here We Go Again
wrote:

"O-ring Seals" wrote

I would like to help set the record straight.

This should be interesting.

As a close associate of Bill Phillips, I can assure you that he never wanted to
keep JRJ from hosting the Pinckneville event.

Pray tell us how would you possibly stop him considering it was his
home airport, hosted in his hangar, with surprisingly enough himself
and his wife as host and hostess.

The Jean (NV) event, which Bill and I coordinated, was never intended
to replace any other fly-in.

Gag me with a spoon.

Pinckneyville itself does have some shortcomings,

Couldn't prove that by the positive comments the bunion has been
reading from the regulars in this group who have been attending these
last number of years and posting rave revues after each and every
fly in.

Since you've never been there ( I assume...) let me tell you
what's it's like. The airport is located about 5 miles from
the town. Pinckneyville is like most of rural America in
the flat parts of the Nation... lots of land, most stores
(and people, too) are pretty ancient but well preserved.

The airport is typical small America... A few hangars of
various descriptions. John Johnson's hangar is quite large
but well filled with aircraft parts. I'm sure, given the
time, one could build several aircraft from just the visible
items.

Food is provided by communal efforts. A couple of BBQ
grills are set up for lunch and dinner. Items cooked are
personal specialties of attendee's.

In other words, the "fly-in" is just a bunch of friends
meeting at a small airport in the middle of nowhere.

I can't see "rave revues" being an accurate description of
the event. Granted, we had a good time but no more than we
would have had at a beach picnic on the Fourth of July...

The airport and accommadations are lacking to a degree...
For what it offers, Pinckneyville does a great job but not
worth the time and money it takes for me to go there. I
enjoyed meeting and visiting the people I met there. If not
for Pinckneyville, I wouldn't have had the opportunity to
meet Tony. For that, Pinckneyville was worth all the effort
nad money it took to get there.

John Ammeter











and these were expressed on this group by Bill and myself.

Correct this bunion if I'm wrong but didn't most of Bill's opinions
revolve around a sack of beer and a couple of bucks as well as the
well used "C" word from Bill's mouth and how it pertained to a certain
female pilot who is not only a regular to this group but also a regular
at the Pinckneyville fly in.

The fly-in is what you make of it.

All fly ins are what the participants make of it, unfortunately your
good friend Bill decided to try to grind this one into the dust in the
most personal and vile way possible.

I wish that JRJ would participate more in this group.

After the way he was publicly treated in this group by Bill and a few
others who could blame him for dropping out.

Morgans wrote:

I second your recollections.

Google is your friend and you might wish to refresh your memory by
spending a few hours with your friend Google.

In addition to your comments, I would add that the ill will that developed,
came from the manner in which Bill expressed the shortcomings, and
why they were going to prevent him from returning.
Other people (not Bill or John) interpreted, and blew up those opinions,
until it was a real mess.

That was my take on it, in my recollections.

Whatever you wish to believe Morgans but don't be surprised if others
in this group have a vastly different recollections of the events in
question.

Anyone else in this group want to take a stab at their recollections of
the events of that particular spring and summer....... Anyone...?????

As usual everyone's favourite Bunion......
Bernie