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Old July 11th 03, 03:39 PM
John Harlow
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1 - TSRs _only_ impact law abiding people. Circles on a sectional will
not stop someone out to kill themselves.


True for small TFRs like the stadium TFRs. But not true for the ADIZ and
larger TFRs (like 30NM Presidential ones). If a controller sees a 1200
squawk within 30NM of Washington, DC, what do you think happens next?


Well, it has happend many times so far and I've seen no action taken (i.e.
blowing them out of the sky) which would have stopped a suicide bomber. So,
how have TSRs been effective? None whatsoever. They're just a nusiance.

2 - GA had *nothing* to do with 9/11, and GA is the *only* group
affected by TSRs.


GA is what the people are afraid of


Where do you get THIS from?

because the TSA has been able to
convince people that waving a metal detector wand in front of all the
passengers on airlines and taking away tweasers is security enough to
cover them, and now they are safe. "But what about those little planes
who don't go through security?" people ask.


What people? What is your source for such statements?

So the TSA's answer is, "We
put restrictions on them, and now you are safe again."


Take the kid who crashed into the Bank Of America building in florida. No
TSR would have stopped that, BTW. And actually it showed how little
capacity a small plane has for destruction. I believe a person's window and
desk was demolished. Frankly, it was good for GA.

What "restrictions" could they possibly put in place to effectively
prevent a "GA suicide bomber" anyway? Pull a Daley and bulldoze all
the grass strips and farms in the country?


How about metal detectors and airline-style security systems in all
airports? Or Permanent Flight Restrictions in the areas that are now
Temporary, or more ADIZ Zones preventing GA pilots from flying over
populated areas without discrete transponder codes and two-way
communication with ATC?


Yes. This would definitely stop all law abiding suicide bombers.

Bottom line is: the only *real* way to prevent this is to ground all
aircraft and shoot down any which may get in the air.




 




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