Clearwater FL mid air; one fatality

you, sir, are an idiot, in addition to a troll.

and a quite unattractive troll at that.

the AIM states that you call every position in the pattern, be it in
crosswind, downwind, base or final. the aim is advisory, you say, and
not regulatory! oh ho, but explain that to an NTSB judge when you've
knocked another plane out of the sky and ended several people's lives
prematurely because you thought the advisory information was
unnecessary, and didn't contribute enough to safety to justify lifting
your green, sausagelike finger and depressing the extremely life limited
PTT switch, energizing the grossly inefficient, hence gasoline wasting
radio, which jeopardizes the lives of thousands of birds in your
vicinity simply through its frankensteinesque, extravagant use of
radiant energy.

in fact, you probably have to start your APU just to transmit.

in all seriousness, i certainly hope you don't come into contact with
student pilots or pilots that are still malleable in their attention to
detail or attitude towards doing every last useful thing to further
safety of flight for everyone; not just themselves.

you need only consider the situation where instrument traffic gets a
late handoff to an uncontrolled CTAF, and someone not making any calls
going onto base or final, and you have yourselves an error chain fit for
a midair. when both planes are low, slow, and focused on the runway.
need me to draw a picture?

in addition: this college you speak of? they are training people?
sadly, people do not spring forth fully formed from the foreheads of
others; only gods. this being said, radio skills do not spring forth
fully formed from the foreheads of CFIs either. students must learn by
experience. and this experience usually includes saying "uhhh, uhhh,
uhhhh cessna uhhhh, uhhhh" on the radio for some time. give them a
break. they're not at o'hare. they're not at your airport. they're at
their airport. they probably don't want some nordo freak coming in and
screwing up their pattern anyway.

note: read the AIM on proper radio speaking technique, not just when to
speak. you'll probably cut down your transmission lengths by half.

AND ANOTHER THING. stop asking for any traffic in the area to please
advise when you change to CTAF; change 10nm out, that way you can listen
for anyone in the pattern making PROPER calls on EVERY leg. of course,
if there was only one person in the pattern there, and they were making
one call on every downwind, and doing full-stop taxibacks, you probably
want to listen up 20nm up if you're not flying a piper cub.

%nfsd

Newps wrote:


gatorcog wrote:

I didn't hit the bonanza precisely because I did see and avoid him. I
call
all my positions and listen for others, too.


Don't call every position, it's unnecessary and annoying. For example
if you are alone in the pattern then one call per pattern, midfield
downwind, is all you need. If the pattern is really busy and you are
following the same guy then same deal, one call midfield. If somebody
is nearing the airport and will be joining the pattern then more calls
make sense. We have a college flight school that trains at an airport
11 SW of here and with three in the pattern you'd think it was O'Hare.
It is a constant nonstop barrage of totally useless traffic calls. Fer
Christ sakes they are making a call when they taxi from the ramp to the
runway.