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Old February 12th 04, 05:53 PM
Chuck
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Billy is redeeming himself in my eyes after foisting his insecure OS
(and Outlook) on us:



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Larry, is Bill Gates twisting your arm to use his products ?

I bet that you have really hurt his feelings now that you have come out in
public and bad mouthed his company and products.


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Old February 12th 04, 09:33 PM
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I've always suggested what I believe to be the perfect solution for people
who don't like Bill, don't like Microsoft, or don't like their products ...

.... Don't use them.

In my eyes, Bill Gates is a modern day hero, not the bad guy. A CREATOR of
values, not a destroyer as seem so many in this world (not aimed at original
poster).


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Old February 12th 04, 10:16 PM
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In a previous article, "Cockpit Colin" said:
I've always suggested what I believe to be the perfect solution for people
who don't like Bill, don't like Microsoft, or don't like their products ...

... Don't use them.


Great. Now convince the people who use my web sites not to use IE, so I
don't have to make dozens of work-arounds for the fact that millions of
people continue to use that piece of crap in spite of the fact that it's
demonstrably the worst browser on the market today. And convince the
company I work for to stop requiring certain documents in Word, a
thoroughly horrible word processor. And stop people who subcribe to my
mailing lists from using Outlook and Outlook Express, so they don't flood
my mail servers with the viruses which they inevitably get because of it.

Microsoft wouldn't be a problem if they weren't a combination of the most
evil, dishonest and illegal monopolists on the planet, AND the worst
programmers.

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Old February 12th 04, 10:49 PM
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Paul Tomblin wrote:

And stop people who subcribe to my
mailing lists from using Outlook and Outlook Express, so they don't flood
my mail servers with the viruses which they inevitably get because of it.


Stop people that happen to visit a web site or view a mail message with my
email address from using MSFT products. That would prevent those products
from sending out viruses forged to appear to be from me.

- Andrew

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Old February 12th 04, 11:09 PM
ET
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Andrew Gideon wrote in
online.com:

Paul Tomblin wrote:

And stop people who subcribe to my
mailing lists from using Outlook and Outlook Express, so they don't
flood my mail servers with the viruses which they inevitably get
because of it.


Stop people that happen to visit a web site or view a mail message
with my email address from using MSFT products. That would prevent
those products from sending out viruses forged to appear to be from
me.

- Andrew



Of course we all know that if, say Netscape was used by 90%+ of all the
users out there, all the security explotes/viruses etc would be written for
those applications....

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completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams
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Old February 12th 04, 11:21 PM
Andrew Gideon
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ET wrote:

Of course we all know that if, say Netscape was used by 90%+ of all the
users out there, all the security explotes/viruses etc would be written
for those applications....


Presuming that Netscape (or whomever) didn't break some basic principles of
software engineering (ie. shoving a widely diverse set of features into a
single monolithic component), it's a good bet that there'd be fewer bugs
and that those would be more quickly fixed.

~200 days for the fix for the ASN.1 issue? That may be a new record.

Presuming that Netscape (or whomever) didn't bundle their product with the
monopolistic OS in a way that eliminates competition, along with contracts
that discouraged OEMs from using alternative OSes, then it wouldn't be
likely that any single product would achieve 90% reach anyway.

Monocultures are good for disease, but bad for the population.

- Andrew

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Old February 13th 04, 02:36 AM
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In article ne.com,
Andrew Gideon wrote:

ET wrote:

Of course we all know that if, say Netscape was used by 90%+ of all the
users out there, all the security explotes/viruses etc would be written
for those applications....


Presuming that Netscape (or whomever) didn't break some basic principles
of
software engineering (ie. shoving a widely diverse set of features into a
single monolithic component), it's a good bet that there'd be fewer bugs
and that those would be more quickly fixed.

~200 days for the fix for the ASN.1 issue? That may be a new record.


didn't you hear? ms claims the bug isn't the problem, the
patch is the problem.

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Old February 16th 04, 01:16 AM
CriticalMass
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Andrew Gideon wrote:

Presuming that Netscape (or whomever) didn't bundle their product with the
monopolistic OS in a way that eliminates competition, along with contracts
that discouraged OEMs from using alternative OSes, then it wouldn't be
likely that any single product would achieve 90% reach anyway.



See, this kind of crap is what passes for "information".

OK. So you have an opinion about MS. Wonderful. An opinion is like an
asshole. We've all got 'em. But that doesn't make you special.

MS "bundles their product with the monopolistic OS"? Bull****. If
there's any obstacle out there preventing ANYONE from doing precisely
what Bill Gates has accomplished, providing THE WORLD with a PC-based
operating system THAT WORKS better than anything else out there (you
wanna' challenge the consumer usage numbers?), state what that obstacle
is NOW, before any more of your baseless charges that MS is
monopolistic. It's not a "monopoly" - he built a better mousetrap-
what's your problem with that? We can do that in this country - it's
fair, and it's legal. Get over it.

I prefer Netscape as a browser, and NOTHING in the Windows operating
system does any "eliminating", or in any other way, precludes my use of
a non-MS product.

C'mon. Get a life.

You gotta' problem with Microsoft? Fine. That's your privilege. But
lose all the diatribe about how Gates and MS are getting in your way of
doing what you want. It ain't happening. You're hallucinating.

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Old February 13th 04, 12:31 AM
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ET wrote:

Of course we all know that if, say Netscape was used by 90%+ of all the
users out there, all the security explotes/viruses etc would be written for
those applications....


At one time, Netscape was. Didn't happen then.....

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.
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Old February 13th 04, 12:21 AM
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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Microsoft wouldn't be a problem if they weren't a combination of the most
evil, dishonest and illegal monopolists on the planet, AND the worst
programmers.



Quite...their "monopoly" should be one granted by the government, like the
public utilities, not the market. How illegal can you get?



 




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