Cellphone via headset ?

"Newps" wrote in message
...


Cockpit Colin wrote:

If it costs them that much then they don't know what they're doing.
There are two companies making these that I'm aware of that don't come
close to this cost and several headset manufacturers that add them to
their headsets.


That was my (uninformed) opinion too - unfortunately I had to eat humble
pie
when I started asking the designers some "pointed" questions. For
starters,
as I said in a previous post, you have to compare apples with apples.
Show
me the microprocessor in the headset interface - show me the intercom -
show
me the seperate satelite phone connection - show me the individual
controls
over input / output levels for all of the above. Show me how some of the
competing products raise the mic bias level to actually make an
incompatible
headset compatible (and is fine tuned even more by adjustment of the mic
volume).

That's called overkill. I have no idea what's in my cellset. Don't
care. The cellphone volume is the same as the radio volume, you don't
realize how important that is until you use a unit that doesn't do that.
Unit works flawlessly, it rings in my headset and people on the other
end cannot tell I'm in the plane. If I didn't tell them that I was
flying they would never know it. I built a little L shaped stand that
is velcroed to my windshield so the phone antenna is always looking
outside, always get a signal and makes it easy to dial while in flight.


What cellphone and service are you using, and what sort of success have you
had in doing that (altitudes, coverage)?

Thanks,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

I have Verizon. Originally it was Commnet, that turned into Airtouch
which then turned into Verizon. I never fail to get a signal if I am at
1000 AGL, unles I am deep in the mountains. I may have to get to the
ridge tops then. I have been in the middle of north central South
Dakota and the phone has rung and it worked great, other person couldn't
tell I was in the air. Right now I use a Kyocera 7135. Replaced the LG
4400 which overall worked great. Before that I had the Motorola T720,
that was probably the worst phone I've ever had, although having nothing
to do with its in flight qualities. I have found Motorola phones to
have the worst receivers. My wife has a Kyocera 414 after just
replacing the Kyocera 3135. All work great in the plane and in fringe
areas on the ground.

John Clonts wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
...


Cockpit Colin wrote:


If it costs them that much then they don't know what they're doing.
There are two companies making these that I'm aware of that don't come
close to this cost and several headset manufacturers that add them to
their headsets.


That was my (uninformed) opinion too - unfortunately I had to eat humble

pie

when I started asking the designers some "pointed" questions. For

starters,

as I said in a previous post, you have to compare apples with apples.

Show

me the microprocessor in the headset interface - show me the intercom -

show

me the seperate satelite phone connection - show me the individual

controls

over input / output levels for all of the above. Show me how some of the
competing products raise the mic bias level to actually make an

incompatible

headset compatible (and is fine tuned even more by adjustment of the mic
volume).

That's called overkill. I have no idea what's in my cellset. Don't
care. The cellphone volume is the same as the radio volume, you don't
realize how important that is until you use a unit that doesn't do that.
Unit works flawlessly, it rings in my headset and people on the other
end cannot tell I'm in the plane. If I didn't tell them that I was
flying they would never know it. I built a little L shaped stand that
is velcroed to my windshield so the phone antenna is always looking
outside, always get a signal and makes it easy to dial while in flight.



What cellphone and service are you using, and what sort of success have you
had in doing that (altitudes, coverage)?

Thanks,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

I use T-Mobile GSM, Samsung E-715 Phone works only in populated areas up to
about 1,500' to 2000' AGL then falls on its face.


"Newps" wrote in message
...
I have Verizon. Originally it was Commnet, that turned into Airtouch
which then turned into Verizon. I never fail to get a signal if I am at
1000 AGL, unles I am deep in the mountains. I may have to get to the
ridge tops then. I have been in the middle of north central South
Dakota and the phone has rung and it worked great, other person couldn't
tell I was in the air. Right now I use a Kyocera 7135. Replaced the LG
4400 which overall worked great. Before that I had the Motorola T720,
that was probably the worst phone I've ever had, although having nothing
to do with its in flight qualities. I have found Motorola phones to
have the worst receivers. My wife has a Kyocera 414 after just
replacing the Kyocera 3135. All work great in the plane and in fringe
areas on the ground.

John Clonts wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
...


Cockpit Colin wrote:


If it costs them that much then they don't know what they're doing.
There are two companies making these that I'm aware of that don't come
close to this cost and several headset manufacturers that add them to
their headsets.


That was my (uninformed) opinion too - unfortunately I had to eat
humble

pie

when I started asking the designers some "pointed" questions. For

starters,

as I said in a previous post, you have to compare apples with apples.

Show

me the microprocessor in the headset interface - show me the intercom -

show

me the seperate satelite phone connection - show me the individual

controls

over input / output levels for all of the above. Show me how some of
the
competing products raise the mic bias level to actually make an

incompatible

headset compatible (and is fine tuned even more by adjustment of the
mic
volume).

That's called overkill. I have no idea what's in my cellset. Don't
care. The cellphone volume is the same as the radio volume, you don't
realize how important that is until you use a unit that doesn't do that.
Unit works flawlessly, it rings in my headset and people on the other
end cannot tell I'm in the plane. If I didn't tell them that I was
flying they would never know it. I built a little L shaped stand that
is velcroed to my windshield so the phone antenna is always looking
outside, always get a signal and makes it easy to dial while in flight.



What cellphone and service are you using, and what sort of success have
you
had in doing that (altitudes, coverage)?

Thanks,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

Isn't it against FCC regulations to use a Cell phone in the air?

John
student pilot




Newps wrote in message ...
I have Verizon. Originally it was Commnet, that turned into Airtouch
which then turned into Verizon. I never fail to get a signal if I am at
1000 AGL, unles I am deep in the mountains. I may have to get to the
ridge tops then. I have been in the middle of north central South
Dakota and the phone has rung and it worked great, other person couldn't
tell I was in the air. Right now I use a Kyocera 7135. Replaced the LG
4400 which overall worked great. Before that I had the Motorola T720,
that was probably the worst phone I've ever had, although having nothing
to do with its in flight qualities. I have found Motorola phones to
have the worst receivers. My wife has a Kyocera 414 after just
replacing the Kyocera 3135. All work great in the plane and in fringe
areas on the ground.

John Clonts wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
...


Cockpit Colin wrote:


If it costs them that much then they don't know what they're doing.
There are two companies making these that I'm aware of that don't come
close to this cost and several headset manufacturers that add them to
their headsets.


That was my (uninformed) opinion too - unfortunately I had to eat humble

pie

when I started asking the designers some "pointed" questions. For

starters,

as I said in a previous post, you have to compare apples with apples.

Show

me the microprocessor in the headset interface - show me the intercom -

show

me the seperate satelite phone connection - show me the individual

controls

over input / output levels for all of the above. Show me how some of the
competing products raise the mic bias level to actually make an

incompatible

headset compatible (and is fine tuned even more by adjustment of the mic
volume).

That's called overkill. I have no idea what's in my cellset. Don't
care. The cellphone volume is the same as the radio volume, you don't
realize how important that is until you use a unit that doesn't do that.
Unit works flawlessly, it rings in my headset and people on the other
end cannot tell I'm in the plane. If I didn't tell them that I was
flying they would never know it. I built a little L shaped stand that
is velcroed to my windshield so the phone antenna is always looking
outside, always get a signal and makes it easy to dial while in flight.



What cellphone and service are you using, and what sort of success have you
had in doing that (altitudes, coverage)?

Thanks,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

wrote in message
om...
Isn't it against FCC regulations to use a Cell phone in the air?

hoo boy...here we go again...

Peter Duniho wrote:

hoo boy...here we go again...

No kidding. How many hours has it been since this was discussed here?

--
John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415
____________________

John T wrote:

Peter Duniho wrote:

hoo boy...here we go again...

No kidding. How many hours has it been since this was discussed here?

437.278

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

I'm using an old AMPS / Digital dual mode band phone - but to be honest, I
don't use it a lot in the air. For me, the advantage of the flightcell was
to boost the mic bias and levels on my Bose headset so that the tower could
hear me a little easier (the Bose tend to be a bit on the quiet side, and I
tend to speak a bit too softly).

Cockpit Colin wrote:

I'm using an old AMPS / Digital dual mode band phone - but to be honest, I
don't use it a lot in the air. For me, the advantage of the flightcell was
to boost the mic bias and levels on my Bose headset so that the tower could
hear me a little easier (the Bose tend to be a bit on the quiet side, and I
tend to speak a bit too softly).

You mean for a grand the Bose mic isn't adjustable? Geez, there's a pot
on my Lightspeed and a pot on my Narco com and a panel selectable mic
gain on my Apollo SL40. The last place I need to adjust my mic is my
telephone interface.

Cockpit,

For me, the advantage of the flightcell was
to boost the mic bias and levels on my Bose headset so that the tower could
hear me a little easier (the Bose tend to be a bit on the quiet side, and I
tend to speak a bit too softly).


Nothing a decent intercom wouldn't do. And those 100 $ for the Bose seem to
have been too much, as well...

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)