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"Jay" a écrit dans le message de
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Thats a great example of the trade off of payload vs. speed. What
about any aircraft with a 100kt+ cruise that meet the 2-1 gross-empty
ratio?

An what about the Ban-Bi and MCR 150kt cruise and 2/1 empty ratio ?
Have a look at http://www.ban-bi.com/

We're just completing an MCR4S four seater and are expecting 140 kt cruise
and just 2/1 gross empty ratio on a 100/115 hp Rotax 914.

Regards,

Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France

"news.free.fr" wrote An what about the Ban-Bi and
MCR 150kt cruise and 2/1 empty ratio ?
Have a look at http://www.ban-bi.com/

We're just completing an MCR4S four seater and are expecting 140 kt cruise
and just 2/1 gross empty ratio on a 100/115 hp Rotax 914.

Regards,

Gilles Thesee

How many of these are flying? What is it's rate of climb and ceiling at
gross?

Anyone else think that sounds like a lot to expect out of 115 HP ?
--
Jim in NC

We're just completing an MCR4S four seater and are expecting 140 kt
cruise
and just 2/1 gross empty ratio on a 100/115 hp Rotax 914.

Regards,

Gilles Thesee

How many of these are flying?

At the moment about 20 four seaters are flying, powered by Rotaxes 912S or
914. One is flying with a Jabiru 3300.

What is it's rate of climb and ceiling at
gross?

It depends on the power unit. With the 100 hp continuous 914, the prototype
achieves 700/800 ft/min at maximum takeoff weight. Since the engine is
turbocharged the rate of climb stays rather constant up to critical
altitude.
The normally aspirated 80 hp Rotax 912 MCR01 two seaters routinely climb up
to 17000 ft over the Mont Blanc.
Our empty weight is expected to be around 375 kg for 750 kg max gross
weight.

Anyone else think that sounds like a lot to expect out of 115 HP ?

Indeed Piper and Cessna pilots SHOULD find that quit a lot ! But the MCRs
are very light and aerodynamically clean.
See http://www.ban-bi.com/

Anyone interested in pictures of our project ?
Regards,

Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France

GillesT wrote:

the MCRs are very light and aerodynamically clean.
See http://www.ban-bi.com/

Anyone interested in pictures of our project ?
Regards,

Sure and the price too...

Gilles,

I'd love to see pics of your project.
I used to fly a Dimona Katana with a 912 and it was awesome. Relatively
fast (135 KTS), good climb
(700FPM) and very nice view! Only problem is this airplane gets passed
around among FBO's around
here and I'm tired of paying to check out in it over and over again.

Thanks
Bart
P.S. You can see pics of my project below!

--
Bart D. Hull

Tempe, Arizona

Check http://www.inficad.com/~bdhull/engine.html
for my Subaru Engine Conversion
Check http://www.inficad.com/~bdhull/fuselage.html
for Tango II I'm building.

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GillesT wrote:

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Indeed Piper and Cessna pilots SHOULD find that quit a lot ! But the MCRs
are very light and aerodynamically clean.
See http://www.ban-bi.com/

Anyone interested in pictures of our project ?
Regards,

Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France