Puchaz Spinning thread that might be of interest in light of the recent accident.

"Sure, we should stop training landings as well because that's where the
majority of the accidents happen."

The ignorance in this particular discussion has reached a level where it's
beyond help.


Well, presumably total accidents would increase if you stopped teaching
landings. The point of this thread is that perhaps spin accidents will
decrease if we stop teaching spinning. Whether that is true, I don't
know, but the landing analogy is irrelevant.

Here's an analogy. Why don't we teach people how to drive when their
drunk, we know it will happen. How about we teach pilots to land on a
mountain side, in water, into trees, make a good turn at 50 ft. agl!
They've all happened. How about we practice these maneuvers regularly.
Sound stupid?
Hey, here's a novel idea! How about we spend a great many hours in
training on how to AVOID flying into a mountainous, unlandable region
or lake without enough height to get out, AVOID being low with no
escape over a forest.Teach us how to AVOID the mistakes MADE EARLIER
in our flight that got us to low for a proper circuit or RECOVERY from
a spin. Teach us how to keep a constant attitude / airspeed while
manuvering our aircraft. It,s not the spin that kills alot of pilots
it's the poor decisions and flying habits made before the spin, that
got them into trouble. If a pilot is flying below 300 ft. agl, going
slow then turns to final and spins in it was not the spin that killed
him.In my opinion. If flying low and slow is a common occurence,which
is how many spin deaths occure, should'nt we be starting there? In my
club I've seen a 1-23 make an abbreviated circuit, turn final at what
apeared to be 200ft.agl. So I asked him what happend. He said he was
low and had to change his circuit. Had no choice. So I suggested to
him that maybe flying DOWN WIND away from the club at 1500 agl. trying
to join a gaggle and add another 15 min. to his local flight was the
actual reason he had to make an abreviated circuit and dangerous low
turn. Sadly he disagreed. Now someone's going to comment that we need
spin training.I AGREE! We also need to know the safest way to land in
water or trees, avoiding telephone lines ,fence posts etc. if we had
to, but we should triple or quadruple that time in SPIN AVOIDENCE and
the PILOT DECISION PROCESS. Just my two cents.
Don
C-GLUV