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CV wrote in message ...
Andreas Maurer wrote: ......it's going to take a runway of *at least* 6.000 ft and a sideslip to *very* low altitude to be able to land without using the airbrakes. While it seems a excessive for a private rating, most pilots can train to safely and repeatedly conduct this maneuver in considerably less airport than 6000 ft.! I have done it a lot and some of my friends could do it consistently. Success requires a very high degree of speed discipline - even in extremely "slipped" attiudes, a very good understanding of slips and adverse yaw, and a different mindset regarding pattern altitudes and shapes. One also must slip to very, very low altitudes - e.g., through the flair. Sounds bad but it is not really that bad. Remember that AS-W12 pilots routinely (1000's of flights) slipped a 50:1 glider to a landing in considerably less than this in extreme conditions including Appalachian ridge days(Schuemann), wild thermal days in TX (Scott, Greene) and monster wave days in NV (Herold). I have landed 100's of flights in glass in Tehachapi, CA without drag devices. These landings were typically over a 30 ft obstacle at density altitudes 5000 ft, and ALL stopped in less than 2500 feet. More than 50 if those were in an AS-W12. Other gliders involved: AS-K21, AS-W20, AS-W17, G-103, G-102, LS-4, and Caproni (not recommended!). |
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