Zoom

"Dude" wrote in message
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"Cy Galley" wrote in message
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I see via ANN that Zoom has been served his annual non-invitation!


The fact that so many see it on ANN is not helping the cause of the SnF
folks. (or really Zoom).

I think both sides would do better to let it go, but its more likely that
I will catch a ride to Oshkosh on a supersonic flying pig.

I figure that SnF has let it go.. They would be happy leaving it as status
quo- i.e. no zoom at SnF. Zoom's the one who can't give it up.

My guess is that SnF would probably drop the ban if Zoom behaved nicely for
a few years and stopped publishing the annual series of anti-SnF pieces.
Today's selection was pitiful at best, with ANN taking plenty of implied
shots at SnF just in the tone of their articles.

KB

I figure that SnF has let it go.. They would be happy leaving it as status
quo- i.e. no zoom at SnF. Zoom's the one who can't give it up.

My guess is that SnF would probably drop the ban if Zoom behaved nicely
for a few years and stopped publishing the annual series of anti-SnF
pieces. Today's selection was pitiful at best, with ANN taking plenty of
implied shots at SnF just in the tone of their articles.

KB


Unless you don't believe the ANN story about them taping multiple copies of
the ban to the door of the ANN office, then you can't believe they have
dropped it. Even if the story is embellished, it would be best for them to
use a process server or professional delivery service rather than tape.

I think there is plenty of anymosity on both sides, and if SnF were to let
it go, they would simply let Zoom have his press pass and let him in to rant
and rave however he sees fit. Better yet, keep him under unobtrusive
surveillance so that if he starts any fights with anyone they have all the
evidence they need to throw him out and deny him entrance forever.

I met Zoom not too long ago, and frankly, I found him to be a rather meek
and nerdy kind of guy. I bet I could raise his blood pressure with a stern
look.

The experience put the lie to both his self promoted test pilot image as
well as many stores about his behavior. He did seem the type that would
hide behind a lawyer though, so I can believe those tales. I understand he
did a good job of ruining some businesses, and I can't blame anyone for
taking action for being so maligned. Unfortunately, everyone who reads his
reviews hasn't had a chance to meet him.

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:42:54 GMT, "Dude" wrote:


I figure that SnF has let it go.. They would be happy leaving it as status
quo- i.e. no zoom at SnF. Zoom's the one who can't give it up.

My guess is that SnF would probably drop the ban if Zoom behaved nicely
for a few years and stopped publishing the annual series of anti-SnF
pieces. Today's selection was pitiful at best, with ANN taking plenty of
implied shots at SnF just in the tone of their articles.

Unless you don't believe the ANN story about them taping multiple copies of
the ban to the door of the ANN office, then you can't believe they have
dropped it. Even if the story is embellished, it would be best for them to
use a process server or professional delivery service rather than tape.

I don't think SnF sent Zoom a notice reminding him that he was banned from the
show last year. And, of course, Zoom entered SnF grounds, despite the fact that
the ban was still valid, and despite the fact that he had an ongoing lawsuit
against the organization. I don't blame SnF for sending a reminder this year.

Whether SnF or "parties unknown" were responsible for the alleged multiple-copy
delivery, we'll probably never know. Like the "unwanted poster" Richard
mentioned, I bet it becomes a real collector's item....

Ron Wanttaja

"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:42:54 GMT, "Dude" wrote:


I figure that SnF has let it go.. They would be happy leaving it as
status
quo- i.e. no zoom at SnF. Zoom's the one who can't give it up.

My guess is that SnF would probably drop the ban if Zoom behaved nicely
for a few years and stopped publishing the annual series of anti-SnF
pieces. Today's selection was pitiful at best, with ANN taking plenty of
implied shots at SnF just in the tone of their articles.

Unless you don't believe the ANN story about them taping multiple copies
of
the ban to the door of the ANN office, then you can't believe they have
dropped it. Even if the story is embellished, it would be best for them
to
use a process server or professional delivery service rather than tape.

I don't think SnF sent Zoom a notice reminding him that he was banned from
the
show last year. And, of course, Zoom entered SnF grounds, despite the
fact that
the ban was still valid, and despite the fact that he had an ongoing
lawsuit
against the organization. I don't blame SnF for sending a reminder this
year.

Whether SnF or "parties unknown" were responsible for the alleged
multiple-copy
delivery, we'll probably never know. Like the "unwanted poster" Richard
mentioned, I bet it becomes a real collector's item....

Ron Wanttaja

I am certainly not the most educated guy on the history of these antics, but
it has always seemed to me that SnF, or related parties, didn't handle it
well. Not that Zoom was not at fault, but fixing his behavior isn't going
to happen. The crux of Zoom's argument is that the airport is public
property or some sort of whining. At any rate, fighting fire with fire
would seem to be the best plan. Get his idiocy on video, and post it to the
net.

Dude wrote:

"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:42:54 GMT, "Dude" wrote:


I figure that SnF has let it go.. They would be happy leaving it as
status
quo- i.e. no zoom at SnF. Zoom's the one who can't give it up.

My guess is that SnF would probably drop the ban if Zoom behaved nicely
for a few years and stopped publishing the annual series of anti-SnF
pieces. Today's selection was pitiful at best, with ANN taking plenty of
implied shots at SnF just in the tone of their articles.

Unless you don't believe the ANN story about them taping multiple copies
of
the ban to the door of the ANN office, then you can't believe they have
dropped it. Even if the story is embellished, it would be best for them
to
use a process server or professional delivery service rather than tape.

I don't think SnF sent Zoom a notice reminding him that he was banned from
the
show last year. And, of course, Zoom entered SnF grounds, despite the
fact that
the ban was still valid, and despite the fact that he had an ongoing
lawsuit
against the organization. I don't blame SnF for sending a reminder this
year.

Whether SnF or "parties unknown" were responsible for the alleged
multiple-copy
delivery, we'll probably never know. Like the "unwanted poster" Richard
mentioned, I bet it becomes a real collector's item....

Ron Wanttaja


I am certainly not the most educated guy on the history of these antics, but
it has always seemed to me that SnF, or related parties, didn't handle it
well. Not that Zoom was not at fault, but fixing his behavior isn't going
to happen. The crux of Zoom's argument is that the airport is public
property or some sort of whining. At any rate, fighting fire with fire
would seem to be the best plan. Get his idiocy on video, and post it to the
net.


I'm surprised it hasn't been done already.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Maybe someone could post a transcript of his competency hearing.

"Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired" wrote in message
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Dude wrote:
Get his idiocy on video, and post it to the
net.


I'm surprised it hasn't been done already.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Steve Foley wrote:
Maybe someone could post a transcript of his competency hearing.

Read the transcript of the 1980 NTSB hearing (Document se-4661) where
Zoom lost his Medical for his "mental illness". Compare testimony with
some of his current statements and behavior.
http://www.ousterhout.net/zoom/se-4661.html

The Jim "Captain Zoom" Campbell Story: http://www.ousterhout.net/zoom.html

- John Ousterhout -
rah-14, still united

"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
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I don't think SnF sent Zoom a notice reminding him that he was banned from
the
show last year.

He wasn't banned from the show last year. I was there when he went in, and I
took pictures. TV and newspaper crews took pictures, interviewed him, etc.
Bet Ousterhout won't publish those.

Juan Jimenez wrote:

"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
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I don't think SnF sent Zoom a notice reminding him that he was banned from
the
show last year.


He wasn't banned from the show last year. I was there when he went in, and I
took pictures. TV and newspaper crews took pictures, interviewed him, etc.
Bet Ousterhout won't publish those.



Why don't you publish them? Better yet, send them to me and I'll post
them for you.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

In your mailbox. Let's see how good you are in keeping your word.

"Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired" wrote in message
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Juan Jimenez wrote:

"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
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I don't think SnF sent Zoom a notice reminding him that he was banned
from the
show last year.


He wasn't banned from the show last year. I was there when he went in,
and I took pictures. TV and newspaper crews took pictures, interviewed
him, etc. Bet Ousterhout won't publish those.



Why don't you publish them? Better yet, send them to me and I'll post them
for you.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired