Hold "as published"?

"K. Ari Krupnikov" wrote in message
...

That wasn't really a question. The question mark referred to it being
one possible answer to your "what bizarre failure". Prepend "how
about" to make it grammatical.

Garmin 196 is powered by 4 AA batteries and will provide ~4 hours of
guidance after the cigarette lighter adapter goes dead. So I could
have no comms, no mode c and no electrical, and still know with some
confidence where I am.

I admit that this is an unlikely set of circumstances as I also carry
a handheld transceiver. OTOH, it never occurred to me to carry a
handheld transponder :=)


I see. After a failure that causes you to lose both of your completely
independent transceivers, and your transponder, you're confident of the
continued flawless operation of your other avionics because your other
avionics consist solely of a battery operated Garmin 196.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net...

I see. After a failure that causes you to lose both of your completely
independent transceivers, and your transponder, you're confident of the
continued flawless operation of your other avionics because your other
avionics consist solely of a battery operated Garmin 196.

Sure. There's still a single point of failure on most singles. You may
have multiple radios, transponders, etc... but their all fed from the same
single electrical bus. A battery operated handheld (GPS or COM) has a
good chance of working, especially if you have spare batteries.

Back when I was using the hillbilly mechanics I had numerous failures of
the electrical system (due to their ineptitude at replacing the regulator/OVP
unit).

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...

Sure. There's still a single point of failure on most singles. You may
have multiple radios, transponders, etc... but their all fed from the same
single electrical bus. A battery operated handheld (GPS or COM) has a
good chance of working, especially if you have spare batteries.

Back when I was using the hillbilly mechanics I had numerous failures of
the electrical system (due to their ineptitude at replacing the
regulator/OVP
unit).


Well, that's where I was going when I asked "what bizarre failure causes me
to lose both of my completely independent transceivers, and my transponder,
but leaves me fully confident
of the continued flawless operation of my other avionics?" An electrical
failure will affect all of your installed avionics, not just the
transceivers and transponder.

Steven P. McNicoll ) wrote:

Well, that's where I was going when I asked "what bizarre failure causes me
to lose both of my completely independent transceivers, and my transponder,
but leaves me fully confident
of the continued flawless operation of my other avionics?"

How about opening a sport bottle at 9,000 feet and having it spray water
over a portion of the panel, temporarily shorting out the freshly bathed
avionics?

--
Peter

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message news



Well, that's where I was going when I asked "what bizarre failure causes me
to lose both of my completely independent transceivers, and my transponder,
but leaves me fully confident
of the continued flawless operation of my other avionics?" An electrical
failure will affect all of your installed avionics, not just the
transceivers and transponder.

What additional installed avionics do most of us have? Other than the audio panel,
everything connected to my electrical system is a light (well except for pitot heat).

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...

What additional installed avionics do most of us have? Other than the
audio panel,
everything connected to my electrical system is a light (well except for
pitot heat).


Some airplanes have navigation radios installed.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net...

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...

What additional installed avionics do most of us have? Other than the
audio panel,
everything connected to my electrical system is a light (well except for
pitot heat).


Some airplanes have navigation radios installed.

Mine are integegral to the comm.

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
. ..

Mine are integegral to the comm.


Not all of them are.

I think he was asking what would kill your comm and transponder but not your nav.
likelihood is that it would be a whole electrical system failure, in which case you'd
have to depend on your handheld electronics. You do have spare batteries for them
when you fly, don't you?

If I did for some reason run short on spare batteries, I can tell you that the GPS
would take priority over the handheld comm. Besides, my GPS only uses 4 AA's
where my handheld comm uses 10.

Ron Natalie wrote:

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message news



Well, that's where I was going when I asked "what bizarre failure causes me
to lose both of my completely independent transceivers, and my transponder,
but leaves me fully confident
of the continued flawless operation of my other avionics?" An electrical
failure will affect all of your installed avionics, not just the
transceivers and transponder.

What additional installed avionics do most of us have? Other than the audio panel,
everything connected to my electrical system is a light (well except for pitot heat).

--
--Ray Andraka, P.E.
President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc.
401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950
email
http://www.andraka.com

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759

"Ray Andraka" wrote in message ...
I think he was asking what would kill your comm and transponder but not your nav.
likelihood is that it would be a whole electrical system failure, in which case you'd
have to depend on your handheld electronics. You do have spare batteries for them
when you fly, don't you?

Yep, I carry a whole brick of AA's. Use them for everything from the ANR headsets
to the flashlights.