![]() |
| If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|||||||
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
#13
|
|||
|
|||
|
Matt,
You are right that resizing creates complications with brackets and other hardware. But this will take only a little time and effort to address. The calculations for the structural sizing are not that time consuming either. Let's take a Baby Ace spar for example which is made of sitka spruce, and for which we want to substitute white pine. The first thing is to calculate the moment of inertia (I) of the spar: I = width x height (cubed) divided by 12. So for the 3/4" wide by 5-1/8" high Baby Ace spar, the moment of inertia calculates to 0.75 x 5.125(cubed) / 12 = 8.41. Now we simply look up the modulus of rupture (Fbu), which is the strength in bending, for spruce and pine: 10,100psi for sitka and 8,800psi for pine (according to Forest Products Laboratory data). By plugging in the moment of inertia into the bending stress formula, we arrive at the maximum load this spar is capable of carrying: My = Fbu x I Where M = bending moment in inch pounds y = distance of neutral axis of spar to outer surface on compression side I = 8.41 (as we just calculated) So to arrive at the ultimate strength of the Baby ace spar we simply multiply I (8.41) x modulus of rupture of sitka (10,100). The answer is 84,941 inch pounds. This figure is the amount of load the spar was designed to carry, using sitka spruce. Now to subsitute pine all we have to do is rearrange the bending stress formula using the slightly lower modulus of rupture (Fbu) of pine. So first we want to solve for bending moment (I) using the substitute wood: I = My / Fbu = 84,941 / 8,800 = 9.65 Now that we know the moment of inertia we can solve for the increased width of the spar using pine: w = I x 12 / h(cubed) = 9.65 x 12 / 134.61 = 0.860 So the new width (thickness) of the pine spar is 0.860 inch, a little less than 7/8" (0.875). So we would only need to increase the thickness of the spar by a mere 1/8". Remember the stock Baby Ace sitka spar is 3/4", so our 7/8" pine spar would actually be a little stronger. That's all the calculation you would need to do for the whole airplane if most of the structure is made of 3/4" stock. If the longerons were specified as 3/4" sitka, you would again simply substitute 7/8" pine. I don't think this is a lot of work, because now I can go down to Home Depot and pick out some nice clear pine, bring it right home and start building an airplane. I think this is so much better than sending hundreds of dollars to some mail-order outfit and wondering what kind of beating the boards took in transit. One of the biggest dangers in using wood as a structural material is compression failures that are almost invisible to the naked eye. A piece of wood that has been severely stressed (such as sitting under some big heavy boxes on the UPS truck) may look perfectly good, but its fibers may be have completely lost their strength. A small amount of load and it will now snap like a twig. That's one of the reasons I don't like mail-order wood. That's also why you need to test a sample from each board you buy and look very carefully for compression failures or wood "crush." The EAA book I mentioned previously has a good article on this, written by Sam Evans, the designer of the Volksplane. Regards, Gordon. "Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... Gordon Arnaut wrote: Matt, You are correct that resizing structural members is not as simple as simply increasing size by the same percentage amount that the substitute wood varies in strength. Yes, you do have to recalculate the structural stresses, but this is not that difficult. You can do this by applying the bending stress formula. This will give you the exact dimensions that you will need of the substitute material, in order to carry the same loads. There is an old Sport Aviation article that works through this, called "Selection and Evaluation of Wood," by Noel J. Becar. It is included in the EAA book, "Wood: Aircraft Building Tecniques." Yes, not that difficult, but definitely tedious and time consuming. I'd rather spend a little more time locating quality wood of the species specified by the designer than recalculating the sizes of all of the stressed members of the structure - which is a lot of calculation even on simple airframes. And then you may have to adjust a lot of other items (brackets, etc.) to accomodate the different dimensions. All in all, a lot of work and the increased chance of a miscalculation that could cause problems later. If someone was planning to make many airplanes using the new wood, then it would be worthwhile, but for a single airplane, it seems to me that the work would greatly outweight any benefit of using a different specie. Matt |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| Sensenich Wood Prop Question | [email protected] | Owning | 3 | April 4th 05 03:32 PM |
| wood grain question. | Fred the Red Shirt | Home Built | 1 | December 6th 04 03:13 PM |
| Metal Prop vs. Wood Prop | Larry Smith | Home Built | 21 | September 26th 03 08:45 PM |
| Wood questions - Public Lumber Company, determining species at the lumberyard | Corrie | Home Built | 17 | September 17th 03 07:51 PM |