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Old September 23rd 05, 08:30 PM
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Steve Foley wrote:
Pics weren't as blury as I had figured.

http://steve.foley.home.att.net/stuka1.jpg
http://steve.foley.home.att.net/stuka2.jpg



Does it have the siren on the landing gear?

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Old September 23rd 05, 10:57 PM
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Steve Foley wrote:

Pics weren't as blury as I had figured.

http://steve.foley.home.att.net/stuka1.jpg
http://steve.foley.home.att.net/stuka2.jpg




Does it have the siren on the landing gear?


Fred, you didn't ask the most imortant question: does it have cup
holders?

As for the sirens I would be hesitant to use them. There are a lot
of WW2 survivors who moved here after the war who would I assume would
be upset hearing them.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old September 24th 05, 03:28 AM
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:57:53 -0500, "Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired"
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As for the sirens I would be hesitant to use them. There are a lot
of WW2 survivors who moved here after the war who would I assume would
be upset hearing them.


I'd suspect there are very few who were bombed more than once or twice by
Stukas. The JU-87 was dead meat without air superiority, and other than
(possibly) in Operation Torch, Americans ground troops probably had sufficient
air cover.

Ron Wanttaja

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Old September 24th 05, 05:22 AM
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Ron Wanttaja wrote:
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:57:53 -0500, "Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired"
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As for the sirens I would be hesitant to use them. There are a lot
of WW2 survivors who moved here after the war who would I assume would
be upset hearing them.



I'd suspect there are very few who were bombed more than once or twice by
Stukas. The JU-87 was dead meat without air superiority, and other than
(possibly) in Operation Torch, Americans ground troops probably had sufficient
air cover.

Ron Wanttaja

I was not referring to just military personnel. A very large number
of civilians came under fire from Ju-87s. Even if it only happened once
it would leave an unpleasant memory. I was in the Army in Viet Nam, to
this day certain sounds or smells bring back unpleasant memories. The
same is true of most people who have experienced a traumatic event.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old September 24th 05, 05:14 PM
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Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired wrote:
Ron Wanttaja wrote:
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:57:53 -0500, "Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired"
wrote:


As for the sirens I would be hesitant to use them. There are a lot
of WW2 survivors who moved here after the war who would I assume would
be upset hearing them.



I'd suspect there are very few who were bombed more than once or twice by
Stukas. The JU-87 was dead meat without air superiority, and other than
(possibly) in Operation Torch, Americans ground troops probably had sufficient
air cover.

Ron Wanttaja

I was not referring to just military personnel. A very large number
of civilians came under fire from Ju-87s. Even if it only happened once
it would leave an unpleasant memory. I was in the Army in Viet Nam, to
this day certain sounds or smells bring back unpleasant memories. The
same is true of most people who have experienced a traumatic event.


That's a good point. One might make a similar argument regarding
swastikas (yes, I know the Nazis didn't invent nor do they own the
swastika) on replica German aircraft and especially when one appears
on a non-replica homebuilt aircraft.

Leads one to wonder of the builder, "What was he thinking?"

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Old September 24th 05, 05:27 PM
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Then you must be upset about that Yak 52 (or chinese C-6 or whatever it
was) that was done up in FW-190 markings. Didn't notice if it had a
swastika or not.

John

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Old September 24th 05, 10:09 PM
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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John T wrote:

Then you must be upset about that Yak 52 (or chinese C-6 or whatever it
was) that was done up in FW-190 markings. Didn't notice if it had a
swastika or not.

John


Actually one would have to be fairly close to an aircraft and
looking at it to see the markings. The siren's sound would be heard by
people indoors or out.

When the 33rd TFW came back from the Gulf War with 16 MiG kills some
unthinking people hung out a banner saying "welcome home storm
troopers." As a Jew who has no maternal family thanks to the Nazis I
could have taken offense, but I knew they intended no offense. As an
aside the 33rd also put 16 green stars (representing the 16 MiGs downed)
and a sign saying "biggest MiG parts distributor in South West Asia"
at each end of the TAC area of Eglin AFB.

One can't avoid offending everyone, but I think an attempt should be
made to offend as few as possible.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old September 24th 05, 09:48 PM
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That's a good point. One might make a similar argument regarding
swastikas (yes, I know the Nazis didn't invent nor do they own the
swastika) on replica German aircraft and especially when one appears
on a non-replica homebuilt aircraft.

Leads one to wonder of the builder, "What was he thinking?"

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Probably the same thing as the guys who build replica P-51's, P-47's,
P-38's, Spitfires, Hurricanes, etc. I wouldn't make a big deal over it...

KB


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Old September 25th 05, 09:30 PM
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Kyle Boatright wrote:
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That's a good point. One might make a similar argument regarding
swastikas (yes, I know the Nazis didn't invent nor do they own the
swastika) on replica German aircraft and especially when one appears
on a non-replica homebuilt aircraft.

Leads one to wonder of the builder, "What was he thinking?"

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FF


Probably the same thing as the guys who build replica P-51's, P-47's,
P-38's, Spitfires, Hurricanes, etc. I wouldn't make a big deal over it...


Please note my last sentence was IRT the immediately aformentioned
"non-replica homebuilt aircraft". Sky-Pups, for instance.

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FF

 




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