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Steve Foley wrote: Pics weren't as blury as I had figured. http://steve.foley.home.att.net/stuka1.jpg http://steve.foley.home.att.net/stuka2.jpg Does it have the siren on the landing gear? -- FF |
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:57:53 -0500, "Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired"
wrote: As for the sirens I would be hesitant to use them. There are a lot of WW2 survivors who moved here after the war who would I assume would be upset hearing them. I'd suspect there are very few who were bombed more than once or twice by Stukas. The JU-87 was dead meat without air superiority, and other than (possibly) in Operation Torch, Americans ground troops probably had sufficient air cover. Ron Wanttaja |
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Ron Wanttaja wrote:
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:57:53 -0500, "Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired" wrote: As for the sirens I would be hesitant to use them. There are a lot of WW2 survivors who moved here after the war who would I assume would be upset hearing them. I'd suspect there are very few who were bombed more than once or twice by Stukas. The JU-87 was dead meat without air superiority, and other than (possibly) in Operation Torch, Americans ground troops probably had sufficient air cover. Ron Wanttaja I was not referring to just military personnel. A very large number of civilians came under fire from Ju-87s. Even if it only happened once it would leave an unpleasant memory. I was in the Army in Viet Nam, to this day certain sounds or smells bring back unpleasant memories. The same is true of most people who have experienced a traumatic event. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired wrote: Ron Wanttaja wrote: On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:57:53 -0500, "Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired" wrote: As for the sirens I would be hesitant to use them. There are a lot of WW2 survivors who moved here after the war who would I assume would be upset hearing them. I'd suspect there are very few who were bombed more than once or twice by Stukas. The JU-87 was dead meat without air superiority, and other than (possibly) in Operation Torch, Americans ground troops probably had sufficient air cover. Ron Wanttaja I was not referring to just military personnel. A very large number of civilians came under fire from Ju-87s. Even if it only happened once it would leave an unpleasant memory. I was in the Army in Viet Nam, to this day certain sounds or smells bring back unpleasant memories. The same is true of most people who have experienced a traumatic event. That's a good point. One might make a similar argument regarding swastikas (yes, I know the Nazis didn't invent nor do they own the swastika) on replica German aircraft and especially when one appears on a non-replica homebuilt aircraft. Leads one to wonder of the builder, "What was he thinking?" -- FF |
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Then you must be upset about that Yak 52 (or chinese C-6 or whatever it
was) that was done up in FW-190 markings. Didn't notice if it had a swastika or not. John |
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John T wrote:
Then you must be upset about that Yak 52 (or chinese C-6 or whatever it was) that was done up in FW-190 markings. Didn't notice if it had a swastika or not. John Actually one would have to be fairly close to an aircraft and looking at it to see the markings. The siren's sound would be heard by people indoors or out. When the 33rd TFW came back from the Gulf War with 16 MiG kills some unthinking people hung out a banner saying "welcome home storm troopers." As a Jew who has no maternal family thanks to the Nazis I could have taken offense, but I knew they intended no offense. As an aside the 33rd also put 16 green stars (representing the 16 MiGs downed) and a sign saying "biggest MiG parts distributor in South West Asia" at each end of the TAC area of Eglin AFB. One can't avoid offending everyone, but I think an attempt should be made to offend as few as possible. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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wrote in message oups.com... snip That's a good point. One might make a similar argument regarding swastikas (yes, I know the Nazis didn't invent nor do they own the swastika) on replica German aircraft and especially when one appears on a non-replica homebuilt aircraft. Leads one to wonder of the builder, "What was he thinking?" -- FF Probably the same thing as the guys who build replica P-51's, P-47's, P-38's, Spitfires, Hurricanes, etc. I wouldn't make a big deal over it... KB |
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Kyle Boatright wrote: wrote in message oups.com... snip That's a good point. One might make a similar argument regarding swastikas (yes, I know the Nazis didn't invent nor do they own the swastika) on replica German aircraft and especially when one appears on a non-replica homebuilt aircraft. Leads one to wonder of the builder, "What was he thinking?" -- FF Probably the same thing as the guys who build replica P-51's, P-47's, P-38's, Spitfires, Hurricanes, etc. I wouldn't make a big deal over it... Please note my last sentence was IRT the immediately aformentioned "non-replica homebuilt aircraft". Sky-Pups, for instance. -- FF |
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