ADIZ Violation Explained in AOPA Magazine

there are far too many people who
demand this number even though they have no legitimate
reasons to know it.

Not to mention all those that have "just the last four digits". Most of
the rest of the digits can be reconstructed by anybody who knows how the
system is set up.

Jose
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Jose wrote:
there are far too many people who
demand this number even though they have no legitimate
reasons to know it.


Not to mention all those that have "just the last four digits". Most of
the rest of the digits can be reconstructed by anybody who knows how the
system is set up.

Jose
I've been following the SSN debate for a bit and I have not yet seen any
mention of the fact that there is a legitinmate nneed to a single
identification number to tie together the various parts of people's
information. Banks and insurance companies have a need to be able to
gather the complete record for a person for giving credit or giving out
payments. If you don't want this single identify to be a SSN, fine then
what would you have it be? You want to come up with a different number?
It will have the same issue as the SSN number. If it falls into the
wrong hands then ID theft may occur. If you want to attack ID theft,
that's a different story. Make the number tie to something that only
you can provide. Some sort of biometric identifier might work. In a
perfect world we would not need a single identifier but given todays
computer system and silos of information we need a way to tie the
systems together.

John

I've been following the SSN debate for a bit and I have not yet seen any mention of the fact that there is a legitinmate nneed to a single identification number to tie together the various parts of people's information.

I don't want all the various parts of my information to be tied together
by other people for their benefit.

Jose
--
Money: what you need when you run out of brains.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Jose wrote:
I've been following the SSN debate for a bit and I have not yet seen
any mention of the fact that there is a legitinmate nneed to a single
identification number to tie together the various parts of people's
information.


I don't want all the various parts of my information to be tied together
by other people for their benefit.

Jose
Not a problem, then don't deal with banks or insurance companies.

I don't want all the various parts of my information to be tied together by other people for their benefit.
Not a problem, then don't deal with banks or insurance companies.

.... or stores, or doctors, or airplanes, or telephones, or employers...

"If you have done nothing wrong, the next administration will re-define
'wrong; for you. Don't worry, it won't hurt.

Jose
--
Money: what you need when you run out of brains.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Jose wrote:
... or stores, or doctors, or airplanes, or telephones, or employers...

or potential dates. I mean, there is no excuses anymore for
bad surprises in this department, when you can find out
someone's detailed medical history -- a must in these days
and age of dating hazards, any dealing with the
law, including as a juvenile, complete history of telephone
calls -- both landlines and cellphones, including unlisted
numbers -- history of online contributions (newsgroups, web,
mailing lists, including the ones you thought were closed
to members only), credit history of course, political and
religious affiliations or lack thereof (if you haven't managed
to guess already from previous info), details of travel
history, purchasing habits, including but not limited to
books read and purchased or simply browsed (someone posted a
pretty neat account on reddit of how one can easily mine data
from Amazon's wish lists -- pretty crude, but it gives a
good idea of what's possible), as well as borrowed from
public libraries (a bit more tricky this one, but feasible
as well -- not out of reach of a self respecting PI), most
of these info already available to anyone for a fee (or for
free with a bit of effort).

No more bad dates (or bad employees or bad tenants) -- 'bad'
being whatever you want it to be. Can't wait for the day
when everyone's complete DNA informations -- along with easy
to use tools to extract whatever info you are seeeking from
it -- make its way into this wealth of freely available data.

Brave new world indeed,

--Sylvain

("Jose" wrote)
"If you have done nothing wrong, the next administration will re-define
'wrong; for you. Don't worry, it won't hurt.


"Your papers please!"


Montblack
"My dear fellow! This isn't Spain ... this is England!"
A Man For All Seasons (1966)
Winner of six Academy Awards - including Best Picture

John Theune wrote in news:7zjwf.1494$Tn6.742@trnddc04:

Jose wrote:
I've been following the SSN debate for a bit and I have not yet seen
any mention of the fact that there is a legitinmate nneed to a single
identification number to tie together the various parts of people's
information.


I don't want all the various parts of my information to be tied together
by other people for their benefit.

Jose
Not a problem, then don't deal with banks or insurance companies.

Ahhh...another person who'd make an excellent citizen in the
new world order....should I call you 'cousin'?

Just three of many books that I think should be compulsory reading
in school are "Brave New World", "1984", and "Farhenheit 451".

I'm also reminded of that British series, "The Prisoner".

"I am not a number! I am a free man!"

Or we can all start worrying about becoming "obsolete" (Twilight Zone)

Brian
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Skywise wrote:

Just three of many books that I think should be compulsory reading
in school are "Brave New World", "1984", and "Farhenheit 451".

Two of those were compulsory when I was in high school.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

George Patterson wrote:
Skywise wrote:

Just three of many books that I think should be compulsory reading
in school are "Brave New World", "1984", and "Farhenheit 451".


Two of those were compulsory when I was in high school.

All three were, for various classes, when I was in high school, not all
that long ago. Unfortunately, no one takes away any lessons from them.