Holds when PT NA

Oops - that should be just over 500 ft per minute.

"Richard Hertz" wrote in message
et...
The NoPT is for that transition only (I assume you knew that). The GS
intercept altitude is not a huge descent from 4000 in my opinion. The
distance from CAHOW to SWANZ is just over 5 miles with 1400 ft to lose -
my
math shows that is 280 ft per mile. Even at 120kts that is less than 500
ft
per minute...

NoPT means NoPT; you certainly can ask to go around - but you'd better
talk
to someone if you intend to do so. (on a transition that is labeled NoPT)

"David Rind" wrote in message
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If an approach has a hold in lieu of a PT, but the chart says
"No PT", is the hold optional, or is it only available with ATC
authorization the way a PT would be in this situation?

I was looking at the ILS 2 approach into EEN, and there is a
segment at 4000' from an IAF at the GDM VOR marked No PT.
The intercept altitude for the ILS is 2600', which is a fairly
quick descent along the localizer (though certainly doable).
If you wanted to take a turn around the hold to descend, do
you need ATC authorization the way you would for a PT? I can't
tell from the wording in the AIM though perhaps I'm missing the
place where it is spelled out.

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David Rind