A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Soaring
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

S-H safety harness (V2C)



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #4  
Old April 26th 06, 10:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default S-H safety harness (V2C)

wrote:
I had a 5th attachment point installed in my ship and it was a
considerable improvement over the 4 point original equipment harness.
The crotch strap holds the lap belts in the proper position vertically
such that, once they're tight, I don't move up or forward at all; very
nice!.


I agree absolutely with the above.

For peeing in the air you just temporaraily loosen or disconnect the
crotch strap, I find no problem in this in my Nimbus. But remember to
re-connect and tighten it again! Not too tight, though, on a long
flight, comfort is a positive flight safety factor, discomfort is the
opposite. But tighten all straps before landing!

Correctly-positioned lap-straps take the main load in an ground-impact
situation, shoulder straps prevent the body from "jack-knifing" and the
fifth (crotch) strap keeps the lap straps from riding up the body
during flight. If the latter happens, in a situation of high
longitudinal deceleration, the body "submarines" under the lap strap
and high damage or worse can be done to the lower limbs or torso.

In my opinion, all glider seats should have a five- (or six-) point
harness for the above reasons. Even more important in gliders with
reclining or semi-reclining seats.

There was much discussion on this a few years ago on this newsgroup. A
report by a German Automotive engineer criticised the glider crotch
strap for the alleged possibility of damage to the testicles in an
impact. German manufacturers and others "took fright" and then refused
to fit five-point harnesses. This position has fortunately now been
reversed as a result of subsequent tests and reports by aviation
experts.

I and others such as Doctors Peter Saundby and Tony Segal in the UK
became involved. As an ex military pilot used to riding on ejection
seats with 5-point harnesses, I always thought that in a glider
life-or-death impact, sore balls for a few days (if indeed that
happened, which is questionable) were a better alternative to becoming
a paraplegic or dead. Dr Saundby, an experienced glider pilot and
military pilot and flight surgeon and the BGA Medical Advisor, pointed
out that the crotch strap was there, not so much to take load, but to
hold the load-bearing thigh straps in their correct position before
impact.

Dr Segal was able to carry out glider cockpit drop-tests in
co-operation with a number of other organisations such as the UK
Ministry of Defence R&D agency (now QintetiQ). These used old cockpits
and instrumented mannikins. The results were very much in favour of
having that crotch strap, for the reasons above. The Segal tests were
reported in UK magazine Sailplane and Gliding and a longer official
report was also published. Someone may be able to dig up the
references.

So, anyone with a reclining seat glider and only a four-point harness,
I would seriously consider carrying out an officially-approved mod to
fit that crotch strap!

Ian Strachan
Lasham Gliding Centre, UK

 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
UAV's and TFR's along the Mexico boarder John Doe Piloting 145 March 31st 06 07:58 PM
Air Force One Had to Intercept Some Inadvertent Flyers / How? Rick Umali Piloting 29 February 15th 06 05:40 AM
Nearly had my life terminated today Michelle P Piloting 11 September 3rd 05 03:37 AM
Parachute fails to save SR-22 Capt.Doug Piloting 72 February 10th 05 06:14 AM
USAF = US Amphetamine Fools RT Military Aviation 104 September 25th 03 04:17 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.