Manufacturing Quality

Jim Carter wrote:


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Whiting ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 06, 2006 7:26 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.piloting
Conversation: Manufacturing Quality
Subject: Manufacturing Quality

Jim Carter wrote:


I used to believe the same thing about GMC and Chevy, only cosmetic
differences. But now after owning two GMC Sierras I am beginning to
suspect some other differences. Even though the use hasn't changed,

the

GMCs require about 1/2 the maintenance as the Chevys did. Simple

things

like sticky throttles, intermittent switches, loose exhaust

brackets,

etc. don't seem to be plaguing our GMCs like they did the Chevy

variant.

My wife says they "sound" different too; "tighter and more
put-together".

Just shows you the games our mind can play one us. They are made in

the

same plant. http://www.autofieldguide.com/articles/070207.html

I believe they are actually made on the same production line, but the
same people, with just a few parts (grill, some interior parts, etc.)
being different, but I can't find any proof of that at the moment.

The

engines and components are identical so any difference you are seeing

is

a sample difference, not a Chevy vs. GMC difference.

Matt


Maybe as time goes on they are getting a little more careful and have
learned a few things. Could be the Chevys and GMCs are not completely
identical mechanically and operationally.

If they are made the way I think they are made, it would be pretty hard
for them to be different fundamentally. I'd like to have someone who
can speak authoritatively jump in here, but I was told years ago by a GM
engineer that Chevy vs. GMC was treated just like AC vs. not AC. It is
a manufacturing option that is selected as the vehicle moves down the
assembly line.

Matt

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Matt Whiting wrote:

Jim Carter wrote:


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Whiting ]
Posted At: Sunday, August 06, 2006 7:26 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.piloting
Conversation: Manufacturing Quality
Subject: Manufacturing Quality

Jim Carter wrote:


I used to believe the same thing about GMC and Chevy, only cosmetic
differences. But now after owning two GMC Sierras I am beginning to
suspect some other differences. Even though the use hasn't changed,

the

GMCs require about 1/2 the maintenance as the Chevys did. Simple

things

like sticky throttles, intermittent switches, loose exhaust

brackets,

etc. don't seem to be plaguing our GMCs like they did the Chevy

variant.

My wife says they "sound" different too; "tighter and more
put-together".

Just shows you the games our mind can play one us. They are made in

the

same plant. http://www.autofieldguide.com/articles/070207.html

I believe they are actually made on the same production line, but the
same people, with just a few parts (grill, some interior parts, etc.)
being different, but I can't find any proof of that at the moment.

The

engines and components are identical so any difference you are seeing

is

a sample difference, not a Chevy vs. GMC difference.

Matt


Maybe as time goes on they are getting a little more careful and have
learned a few things. Could be the Chevys and GMCs are not completely
identical mechanically and operationally.

If they are made the way I think they are made, it would be pretty hard
for them to be different fundamentally. I'd like to have someone who
can speak authoritatively jump in here, but I was told years ago by a GM
engineer that Chevy vs. GMC was treated just like AC vs. not AC. It is
a manufacturing option that is selected as the vehicle moves down the
assembly line.

I built Firebird's and Camero's for six summers when I was in college.
For each vehicle, there was a sheet of paper that listed all the
details. At the start of each sub assembly, a copy of the sheet was
attached to the support frame. At each station, the worker would check
the list appropriate for the function he/she was performing and supply
the correct part to the assembly. There as an inspector and utility
man/woman at various points on the line to correct any incorrect
assemblies.

"john smith" wrote in message
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I built Firebird's and Camero's for six summers when I was in college.
For each vehicle, there was a sheet of paper that listed all the
details. At the start of each sub assembly, a copy of the sheet was
attached to the support frame. At each station, the worker would check
the list appropriate for the function he/she was performing and supply
the correct part to the assembly. There as an inspector and utility
man/woman at various points on the line to correct any incorrect
assemblies.

To add a data point here I was at a GMC dealership several years ago when a
friend was looking for a small SUV. We were looking at a GMC Jimmy and on
the left side of the truck that's what it said it was. On the right side it
said S-10 (Chevy's version of the same thing.)

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
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I built Firebird's and Camero's for six summers when I was in college.
For each vehicle, there was a sheet of paper that listed all the
details. At the start of each sub assembly, a copy of the sheet was
attached to the support frame. At each station, the worker would check
the list appropriate for the function he/she was performing and supply
the correct part to the assembly. There as an inspector and utility
man/woman at various points on the line to correct any incorrect
assemblies.


To add a data point here I was at a GMC dealership several years ago when a
friend was looking for a small SUV. We were looking at a GMC Jimmy and on
the left side of the truck that's what it said it was. On the right side it
said S-10 (Chevy's version of the same thing.)

I guess the left side was the upscale and higher quality side then, eh? :-)

Matt

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Matt Whiting wrote:

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
"john smith" wrote in message
news:jsmith-BBC896.22051306082006@network-065-024-007-

I built Firebird's and Camero's for six summers when I was in college.
For each vehicle, there was a sheet of paper that listed all the
details. At the start of each sub assembly, a copy of the sheet was
attached to the support frame. At each station, the worker would check
the list appropriate for the function he/she was performing and supply
the correct part to the assembly. There as an inspector and utility
man/woman at various points on the line to correct any incorrect
assemblies.


To add a data point here I was at a GMC dealership several years ago when a
friend was looking for a small SUV. We were looking at a GMC Jimmy and on
the left side of the truck that's what it said it was. On the right side it
said S-10 (Chevy's version of the same thing.)

I guess the left side was the upscale and higher quality side then, eh? :-)

Nope, just charge more for it.
GM used to use the same motor for electric windows across the product
lines. Which vehicle it went in determined how much it cost.