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![]() Jerry Springer wrote: Once again you show the world how amazingly stupid you are Butwig. 99% of RV's are built by average guys that are by no means rich Yuppies myself included. Where do you get your statistics, you assmunch? If hired guns all went away Van's would lose half or more their business overnight and RVG admitted as much a few years ago. |
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("Bret Ludwig" wrote)
Once again you show the world how amazingly stupid you are Butwig. 99% of RV's are built by average guys that are by no means rich Yuppies myself included. Where do you get your statistics, you assmunch? If hired guns all went away Van's would lose half or more their business overnight and RVG admitted as much a few years ago. I'm changing Jerry Springer's reply, a little, to this: "99% of RV's are built [FOR] average guys..." g I ran into the reality of "hired builders" at OSH this year. Out of (10) serious inquiries I bumped into, (7) were related to building mills, (2) were 'I'm going to build it' and (1) was ????? ...goofy. [We] were/are selling an RV-10 QB kit, with many items already completed + no shipping charges. Crates were shipped NEW less than a year ago. We think it's SOLD - you never know. Team get-in-the-air is coming to pick it up this morning - I hope. More details when I know more... I hope it was one of "my" people who bought it! Maybe it's the golf cart ride folks? :-) Montblack |
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Bret Ludwig wrote:
Jerry Springer wrote: Once again you show the world how amazingly stupid you are Butwig. 99% of RV's are built by average guys that are by no means rich Yuppies myself included. Where do you get your statistics, you assmunch? Well stupidwig, I am a neighbor of Van's If hired guns all went away Van's would lose half or more their business overnight and RVG admitted as much a few years ago. I will be sure to ask him next time I see him if he made that statement. I have been flying my RV-6 for 18 years and know a lot of builders and RV pilots and all this propaganda that you are trying to put out is just not true. Why don't you tell us what it is you do and what you are building from plans and why you have such a bad attitude. What has homebuilt aircraft industry done to you???? |
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![]() Jerry Springer wrote: Bret Ludwig wrote: Jerry Springer wrote: I will be sure to ask him next time I see him if he made that statement. I have been flying my RV-6 for 18 years and know a lot of builders and RV pilots and all this propaganda that you are trying to put out is just not true. Why don't you tell us what it is you do and what you are building from plans and why you have such a bad attitude. What has homebuilt aircraft industry done to you???? I was a production worker at Cessan Pawnee, four years. Told the truth to the FAA inspector, it was my ass. Went to Grumman Long Island, two years, laid off. Rockwell Collins, Cedar Rapids, laid off. Finally gave up on aircraft in 1994. Homebuilts are a great idea but they have diverted all the capital from aircraft manufacturing. It's like the old madam's lament, We can't sell it anymore what with these college girls giving it away. For the record I think there is room enough for warbirds and homebuilts both, and factory airplanes too. But I see sons of whores like Alfred who are point blank exploiting the Experimental Amateur Built class to sell what amounts to a factory built airplane without the expense of actually hiring people. Richard started out as a homebuilder himself unlike Alfred, but it's gotten to the same thing. |
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Bret Ludwig wrote:
Jerry Springer wrote: Once again you show the world how amazingly stupid you are Butwig. 99% of RV's are built by average guys that are by no means rich Yuppies myself included. Where do you get your statistics, you assmunch? If hired guns all went away Van's would lose half or more their business overnight and RVG admitted as much a few years ago. Well well Ludwig seem like you have misstated your facts once again. I had breakfast with Van this morning he is not sure, as expected, how many are built using hired guns but figured around 25%. You need to define "hired gun" does that include someone doing the seats, or painting etc.? |
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On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:41:09 GMT, Jerry Springer
wrote: Bret Ludwig wrote: Jerry Springer wrote: Once again you show the world how amazingly stupid you are Butwig. 99% of RV's are built by average guys that are by no means rich Yuppies myself included. Where do you get your statistics, you assmunch? If hired guns all went away Van's would lose half or more their business overnight and RVG admitted as much a few years ago. Well well Ludwig seem like you have misstated your facts once again. I had breakfast with Van this morning he is not sure, as expected, how many are built using hired guns but figured around 25%. You need to For Vans I seriously doubt it'd be that high. For *some* of the Lancairs and AirComps it might be. I really don't even have a guess for the new Glasair models. define "hired gun" does that include someone doing the seats, or painting etc.? I think Richard has it pretty well pegged. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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