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Old October 15th 06, 11:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default Cell phones on GA aircraft

The FCC and the FAA have rules. The FAA is concerned with
any electronic device interfering with the aircraft nav or
comm systems,. The FCC is concerned about a cellphone
blocking hundreds of cell towers on the ground.

Using Your Wireless Phone on Airplanes FCC rules currently
ban cell phone use after a plane has taken off because of
.... and other wireless devices aboard aircraft remain
subject to the rules and ...
www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/cellonplanes.html -
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[PDF] The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is
considering ... File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as
HTML
FCC rules currently ban cell phone use after a plane
.... phone use because of potential interference to
navigation and aircraft systems. The FCC has ...
www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/cellonplanes.pdf -
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Cell Phones On Aircraft: Nuisance Or Necessity? Even if the
FCC finalizes its proposed rule lifting its ban on aircraft
cell phone use, the FAA has no intention to lift its
long-standing ban on the use of ...
http://www.house.gov/transportation/...15-05memo.html
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Opposition To Cell Phones On Aircraft Washington, DC - A
proposed Federal Communications Commission (FCC) rule to ...
any change to the existing ban on aircraft cell phone use
would require the ...
http://www.house.gov/transportation/...release90.html
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Mobile phones on aircraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The cellphone calls are routed via the on-board SATCOM to
the ground network and ... telephones while this aircraft is
airborne is prohibited by FCC rules. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_on_aircraft -
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Aviation International News | Cellphones a real threat to an
....

"Stubby" wrote in
message . ..
|I suppose it doesn't count in this discussion, but balloons
are
| aircraft. Cell phones work fine and are more reliable
than either
| ordinary VHF radios or CB radios. Typically we are at
tree tops, 100 to
| say, 500 feet. I figure people are allowed to use cell
phones in tall
| buildings and easily hit these altitudes.
|
|
| Ron Natalie wrote:
| Mxsmanic wrote:
| I know the FCC says you're not supposed to use cell
phones on an
| aircraft
|
| Actually, the FCC only says that for certain wireless
phone
| services. Not all of them have that prohibition written
in
| the regs.
|
| (even though recent studies show that such use does not
| overload multiple base stations, as the FCC originally
feared).
|
| It's less of a problem now that we've moved away from
the original
| AMPS (analog) cellular phone. However, the study you
are probably
| thinking about doesn't say what you are proposing. It
is talking
| about the Aircell guys identifying that THEIR airborne
use (which
| is not standard cellular) doesn't cause any untoward
interference
| to the ground based systems on the same frequency.
|
| However, has anyone tried it on small aircraft?
|
| The problem is that it doesn't work. Once we went to
much fancier
| digital systems and antenna systems designed to really
pack in the
| density, trying to hit them from over 1000 feet just
doesn't work.
|
| Handheld cell phones have never put out more than 850mw
when
| operating at high power (and they would use much less in
| a plane) and the modern digital ones put out even a
fraction of that.
| It's unlikely that avionics would suffer much.


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Old October 16th 06, 12:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Stubby
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Default Cell phones on GA aircraft

Note the confusion between "airplanes" and "aircraft". The former
excludes helos, balloons and gliders. The latter includes them. I'm
uncertain where people in tall buildings appear.




Jim Macklin wrote:
The FCC and the FAA have rules. The FAA is concerned with
any electronic device interfering with the aircraft nav or
comm systems,. The FCC is concerned about a cellphone
blocking hundreds of cell towers on the ground.

Using Your Wireless Phone on Airplanes FCC rules currently
ban cell phone use after a plane has taken off because of
... and other wireless devices aboard aircraft remain
subject to the rules and ...
www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/cellonplanes.html -
17k - Cached - Similar pages


[PDF] The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is
considering ... File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as
HTML
FCC rules currently ban cell phone use after a plane
... phone use because of potential interference to
navigation and aircraft systems. The FCC has ...
www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/cellonplanes.pdf -
Similar pages


Cell Phones On Aircraft: Nuisance Or Necessity? Even if the
FCC finalizes its proposed rule lifting its ban on aircraft
cell phone use, the FAA has no intention to lift its
long-standing ban on the use of ...
http://www.house.gov/transportation/...15-05memo.html
- 24k - Cached - Similar pages


Opposition To Cell Phones On Aircraft Washington, DC - A
proposed Federal Communications Commission (FCC) rule to ...
any change to the existing ban on aircraft cell phone use
would require the ...
http://www.house.gov/transportation/...release90.html
- 11k - Cached - Similar pages
[ More results from www.house.gov ]


Mobile phones on aircraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The cellphone calls are routed via the on-board SATCOM to
the ground network and ... telephones while this aircraft is
airborne is prohibited by FCC rules. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_on_aircraft -
24k - Cached - Similar pages


Aviation International News | Cellphones a real threat to an
...

"Stubby" wrote in
message . ..
|I suppose it doesn't count in this discussion, but balloons
are
| aircraft. Cell phones work fine and are more reliable
than either
| ordinary VHF radios or CB radios. Typically we are at
tree tops, 100 to
| say, 500 feet. I figure people are allowed to use cell
phones in tall
| buildings and easily hit these altitudes.
|
|
| Ron Natalie wrote:
| Mxsmanic wrote:
| I know the FCC says you're not supposed to use cell
phones on an
| aircraft
|
| Actually, the FCC only says that for certain wireless
phone
| services. Not all of them have that prohibition written
in
| the regs.
|
| (even though recent studies show that such use does not
| overload multiple base stations, as the FCC originally
feared).
|
| It's less of a problem now that we've moved away from
the original
| AMPS (analog) cellular phone. However, the study you
are probably
| thinking about doesn't say what you are proposing. It
is talking
| about the Aircell guys identifying that THEIR airborne
use (which
| is not standard cellular) doesn't cause any untoward
interference
| to the ground based systems on the same frequency.
|
| However, has anyone tried it on small aircraft?
|
| The problem is that it doesn't work. Once we went to
much fancier
| digital systems and antenna systems designed to really
pack in the
| density, trying to hit them from over 1000 feet just
doesn't work.
|
| Handheld cell phones have never put out more than 850mw
when
| operating at high power (and they would use much less in
| a plane) and the modern digital ones put out even a
fraction of that.
| It's unlikely that avionics would suffer much.


 




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