East River turning radius

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"mike regish" wrote:

Meaning that a descending turn will produce a smaller G force, correct?

hmmm, that's backwards. By pulling fewer G's, it'll be a descending turn
because there is insufficient amount of lift in the vertical direction.


Consider the vectors. Consider the portion of the lift vector that is
vertical.
If you bank, the vertical portion of the lift vector is decreased and you
will
descend (assuming level flight initially).

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I guess it depends on your intent. If my intent is to do a descending turn,
then it will produce less G force than if I intended to maintain altitude,
bank angles being the same.

But the other explanation that says that the reduced Gs are a result of
downward acceleration makes sense. Once the descent rate stabilizes, the G
force will be the same as a level, or non-descending turn.

I generally don't set up a turn with the intent of pulling a certain number
of Gs. But I see your point.

mike

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Meaning that a descending turn will produce a smaller G force, correct?

hmmm, that's backwards. By pulling fewer G's, it'll be a descending turn
because there is insufficient amount of lift in the vertical direction.
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mike regish writes:

I guess it depends on your intent. If my intent is to do a descending turn,
then it will produce less G force than if I intended to maintain altitude,
bank angles being the same.

Downward movement at a constant speed is a steady state, and won't
affect G forces. Acceleration downward is different, and it will
decrease the magnitude of acceleration due to gravity, which will
affect net G forces.

But the other explanation that says that the reduced Gs are a result of
downward acceleration makes sense. Once the descent rate stabilizes, the G
force will be the same as a level, or non-descending turn.

Yes.

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In article , (Blanche
Cohen)
wrote:

Witnesses also reported a helicopter hit the building. We should
consider
ourselves lucky that no witnesses saw a Klingon Battle Cruiser
attacking.

Of course not...they would have been using a Romulan cloaking device,

Why? They have their own.


The Klingons stole the technology from the Romulans.

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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article ,
(Blanche Cohen)
wrote:

Witnesses also reported a helicopter hit the building. We should
consider
ourselves lucky that no witnesses saw a Klingon Battle Cruiser
attacking.

Of course not...they would have been using a Romulan cloaking
device,

Why? They have their own.


The Klingons stole the technology from the Romulans.

I don't recall... did the Federation steal it from the Klingons or
Romulans?

Neil

On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:20:33 +0000, Neil Gould wrote:

I don't recall... did the Federation steal it from the Klingons or
Romulans?

It wasn't *stolen*. It was downloaded from Napster. If it had been
stolen, then the Romulans wouldn't have had it any more. So it couldn't
have been stolen. Not stolen.

Just downloaded.

- Andrew

"Neil Gould" wrote in message
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Recently, Gig 601XL Builder wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net posted:

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article ,
(Blanche Cohen)
wrote:

Witnesses also reported a helicopter hit the building. We should
consider
ourselves lucky that no witnesses saw a Klingon Battle Cruiser
attacking.

Of course not...they would have been using a Romulan cloaking
device,

Why? They have their own.


The Klingons stole the technology from the Romulans.

I don't recall... did the Federation steal it from the Klingons or
Romulans?

Neil



The Federation then stole it from the Romulans then misplaced it because
they then borrowed it from the Romulans to use in the Defiant.

In article ,
Andrew Gideon wrote:

On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:20:33 +0000, Neil Gould wrote:

I don't recall... did the Federation steal it from the Klingons or
Romulans?

It wasn't *stolen*. It was downloaded from Napster. If it had been
stolen, then the Romulans wouldn't have had it any more. So it couldn't
have been stolen. Not stolen.

Just downloaded.

It was stolen from one Romulan ship, it wasn't downloaded.

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Bob Noel
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In article ,
"Neil Gould" wrote:

The Klingons stole the technology from the Romulans.

I don't recall... did the Federation steal it from the Klingons or
Romulans?

I think they got it from the Romulans in a secret alliance against the
Dominion.

Andrew Gideon wrote:

It wasn't *stolen*. It was downloaded from Napster.

I heard the Ferengi ran a peer-to-peer network, ruleofacquisition155.com