North Korea's Air Force and The Bomb

Jay,

If a thread about the North Korean air force and their nuclear bomb(s)
"forces" you to leave the group, you were never a part of it to begin
with.


Thanks. for pointing that out. As if you owned it. But I expected
something like that from you.

You and your self-righteous red-neck friends, especially Macklin, now
starting the war-mongering again make me sick. You're all that's wrong
with the US these days condensed in a few people. Too bad that the
percentage of your type is so high in the US pilot population. It
poisons GA.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

We've been at war with NK for 56 years, have troops
stationed there, I'm sure we have every target located.



"Richard Riley" wrote in message
...
| On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:07:20 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote:
|
| WE don't need nukes, we have JDAM
|
| Not sure if we have the targeting infor for effective JDAM
use.
|
| In a perfect world (which I don't think we're in) we and
China would
| have quietly come to a meeting of the minds. China would
continue to
| be an impediment to sanctions to retain Kim's trust. The
next time
| Kim takes his special train into China for medical
treatment he's
| taken prisoner. China rolls in slowly from the north
while
| broadcasting Kim's order to surrender. The South
evacuates Soul but
| doesn't invade. The US offers a buy out to the rest of
the eliets
| (the ones currently buying homes in China) - money and
safety for
| leaving.
|
| But it all depends on China. I don't think they're
willing to give up
| their surrogate, they like having Kim around to poke the
US every
| couple of years.
|
| Popular Mechanics has a terrific article (they've been
doing that a
| lot, lately) about how much farther along the DPRK is on
bio and chem
| weapons than they are on nukes.

Should the USA wait until a nuke, crude or not, goes off in
LA or Portland, should we wait until Seoul or Tokyo glow in
the dark?



"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
...
| "Jim Macklin"
wrote:
|
| All 36 airports should have the runways destroyed.
| All power plants and switching stations that send power
to
| their nuclear factories should be bombed, you can't
produce
| nuke fuel without electricity.
| All naval vessels in their harbors should be sunk.
| All military depots, ammo dumps and warehouses should be
| bombed.
|
| what gives you the right?
|
| ah well, this was a theoretical question.
|
| #m
| --
| Arabic T-shirt sparks airport row
| http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5297822.stm
|
| I Am Not A Terrorist
http://itsnotallbad.com/iamnotaterrorist/

Bush has done many things wrong IMHO. He has failed to veto
some really bad laws. He has not really closed the Mexican
border. But he has taken the steps needed to fight Muslim
terrorists.


"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
...
| "Jim Macklin"
wrote:
|
| Bush didn't pick the war, it was forced on him. Glad we
| have a Commander in Chief and not a wimp.
|
|
| yeah :-)
| God talked to him and forced him to do it. ROTFL
|
|
| God has once talked using a bush. But then it was burning
.... what a nice
| concept ... *g*
|
|
| #m
| --
| Arabic T-shirt sparks airport row
| http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5297822.stm
|
| I Am Not A Terrorist
http://itsnotallbad.com/iamnotaterrorist/

Thanks, can I use you for a job referral at the National War
College or Wal*Mart?



"Thomas Borchert" wrote in
message ...
| Jay,
|
| If a thread about the North Korean air force and their
nuclear bomb(s)
| "forces" you to leave the group, you were never a part
of it to begin
| with.
|
|
| Thanks. for pointing that out. As if you owned it. But I
expected
| something like that from you.
|
| You and your self-righteous red-neck friends, especially
Macklin, now
| starting the war-mongering again make me sick. You're all
that's wrong
| with the US these days condensed in a few people. Too bad
that the
| percentage of your type is so high in the US pilot
population. It
| poisons GA.
|
| --
| Thomas Borchert (EDDH)
|

Maybe I should contact Jeff Foxworthy, being concerned about
OUR national security is a new, "You might be a Red-neck if,
"



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"Jim Macklin" wrote
in message news:yd8Zg.6964$XX2.2889@dukeread04...
| Thanks, can I use you for a job referral at the National
War
| College or Wal*Mart?
|
|
|
| "Thomas Borchert" wrote in
| message ...
|| Jay,
||
|| If a thread about the North Korean air force and their
| nuclear bomb(s)
|| "forces" you to leave the group, you were never a part
| of it to begin
|| with.
||
||
|| Thanks. for pointing that out. As if you owned it. But I
| expected
|| something like that from you.
||
|| You and your self-righteous red-neck friends, especially
| Macklin, now
|| starting the war-mongering again make me sick. You're all
| that's wrong
|| with the US these days condensed in a few people. Too bad
| that the
|| percentage of your type is so high in the US pilot
| population. It
|| poisons GA.
||
|| --
|| Thomas Borchert (EDDH)
||
|
|

If a thread about the North Korean air force and their nuclear bomb(s)
"forces" you to leave the group, you were never a part of it to begin
with.

Thanks. for pointing that out. As if you owned it. But I expected
something like that from you.

Hey -- you're the one whining about leaving the group -- not me. I own
nothing here -- and I would NEVER presume to dictate what aviation
topics you should discuss here. For you to do so is arrogance of the
highest order -- but it's what we've all come to expect from you.

Furthermore, I don't find MXMANIAC's posts to be troublesome in the
least, unlike some of the more sanctimonious members of this group.
For people to be expending energy trying to ostracize the guy is, IMHO,
silly and wrong.

I do, however, find his posts to be boring. I therefore avoid them --
as I would suggest you avoid this thread, since you find it so
abhorrent.

You and your self-righteous red-neck friends, especially Macklin, now
starting the war-mongering again make me sick. You're all that's wrong
with the US these days condensed in a few people. Too bad that the
percentage of your type is so high in the US pilot population. It
poisons GA.

With regards to North Korea, I haven't advocated doing anything -- I've
only asked the question of what we SHOULD do, especially with regard to
air power. (AKA: "Piloting") I *do* find our lack of action surprising,
given the magnitude of the event, but I fully understand the restraint
the US has shown thus far. It's a real can of worms, and there are no
easy solutions.

BTW: I disagree with much of Mr. Macklin's proposed solution(s) to the
North Korea problem -- but I would fight to the death for his right to
state them. This is called "Freedom of Speech", a basic right with
which you are apparently unfamiliar. It's something we Americans have
by birthright, thanks to our forefathers being willing to confront --
and defeat -- tyrants and demagogues like Kim Jong Il.

Thomas, I know you've grown up in a different, more cocooned reality,
so I'm prepared to forgive your ignorance of how the world really works
-- after all, never having to carry your weight in world affairs must
surely do that to a people -- but please refrain from "correcting"
those of us who live in the country that is directly responsible for
your cushy free ride.

It's unbecoming.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
If a thread about the North Korean air force and their nuclear bomb(s)
"forces" you to leave the group, you were never a part of it to begin
with.

Thanks. for pointing that out. As if you owned it. But I expected
something like that from you.

Snip

Very, very well said...

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

Martin Hotze wrote:

"Jim Macklin" wrote:


Bush didn't pick the war, it was forced on him. Glad we
have a Commander in Chief and not a wimp.



yeah :-)
God talked to him and forced him to do it. ROTFL


God has once talked using a bush. But then it was burning ... what a nice
concept ... *g*

Are you this stupid in real life or just on usenet?

Matt

There is a technique in debates and police
interrogations---good cop-bad cop or Devil's advocate. I
may not actually suggest with a 100% personal conviction all
that I say on these groups. It is up to the reader to
consider and decide if what I say has merit.
In any case, effective action is what is needed in DC. It
is like flying a twin with 4 fuel tanks, plus tip tanks
STC'd. The 20 gallon mains and the 40 gallon aux tanks,
plus the 15 gallon tips add up to 150 gallons. But you have
to burn the mains down to less than 1/2 before you switch to
the aux tanks, because the fuel return is only to the mains.
You have to run the aux fuel for 1 hour and then go back to
the mains for an hour to make room for more return fuel.
Then you run the aux an hour and go back to the mains and
also turn the tip transfer pump on which sends fuel to the
aux.

You also must use the aux tanks only in straight and level
flight and all take-offs and landings are to be on the
mains. And then there is cross-feed.

Maybe international policy isn't that hard to do, see
airplane talk.


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
| If a thread about the North Korean air force and their
nuclear bomb(s)
| "forces" you to leave the group, you were never a part
of it to begin
| with.
|
| Thanks. for pointing that out. As if you owned it. But I
expected
| something like that from you.
|
| Hey -- you're the one whining about leaving the group --
not me. I own
| nothing here -- and I would NEVER presume to dictate what
aviation
| topics you should discuss here. For you to do so is
arrogance of the
| highest order -- but it's what we've all come to expect
from you.
|
| Furthermore, I don't find MXMANIAC's posts to be
troublesome in the
| least, unlike some of the more sanctimonious members of
this group.
| For people to be expending energy trying to ostracize the
guy is, IMHO,
| silly and wrong.
|
| I do, however, find his posts to be boring. I therefore
avoid them --
| as I would suggest you avoid this thread, since you find
it so
| abhorrent.
|
| You and your self-righteous red-neck friends, especially
Macklin, now
| starting the war-mongering again make me sick. You're
all that's wrong
| with the US these days condensed in a few people. Too
bad that the
| percentage of your type is so high in the US pilot
population. It
| poisons GA.
|
| With regards to North Korea, I haven't advocated doing
anything -- I've
| only asked the question of what we SHOULD do, especially
with regard to
| air power. (AKA: "Piloting") I *do* find our lack of
action surprising,
| given the magnitude of the event, but I fully understand
the restraint
| the US has shown thus far. It's a real can of worms, and
there are no
| easy solutions.
|
| BTW: I disagree with much of Mr. Macklin's proposed
solution(s) to the
| North Korea problem -- but I would fight to the death for
his right to
| state them. This is called "Freedom of Speech", a basic
right with
| which you are apparently unfamiliar. It's something we
Americans have
| by birthright, thanks to our forefathers being willing to
confront --
| and defeat -- tyrants and demagogues like Kim Jong Il.
|
| Thomas, I know you've grown up in a different, more
cocooned reality,
| so I'm prepared to forgive your ignorance of how the world
really works
| -- after all, never having to carry your weight in world
affairs must
| surely do that to a people -- but please refrain from
"correcting"
| those of us who live in the country that is directly
responsible for
| your cushy free ride.
|
| It's unbecoming.
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"
|