SR22 crash involved racecar driver

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:11:57 -0700, unicate wrote:

The Visitor wrote:
There is the chance that the parachute will ice up itself; when deployed
in icing conditions. If long enough(duration) in icing conditions there
is a risk of collapse. Of course it will deploy but it is not made to
collect ice and function properly.

Thank you. That was my question ... not whether or not a parachute could
sustain an airplane with ice, but whether or not a parachute itself is
susceptible to ice and resulting failure.

http://fl250.blogspot.com/2006_01_01_fl250_archive.html

Check the "Craziest Pirep Ever" section.

"Peter Clark" wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:11:57 -0700, unicate wrote:

The Visitor wrote:
There is the chance that the parachute will ice up itself; when
deployed
in icing conditions. If long enough(duration) in icing conditions there
is a risk of collapse. Of course it will deploy but it is not made to
collect ice and function properly.

Thank you. That was my question ... not whether or not a parachute could
sustain an airplane with ice, but whether or not a parachute itself is
susceptible to ice and resulting failure.

http://fl250.blogspot.com/2006_01_01_fl250_archive.html

Check the "Craziest Pirep Ever" section.

Isn't there a difference between known icing, forecast probable icing, and
forecast possible icing--in addition to the severity of said conditions?

Peter

"Peter Dohm" wrote:

Isn't there a difference between known icing, forecast probable icing, and
forecast possible icing--in addition to the severity of said conditions?

Peter

Not to me. I won't fly anywhere near any of those.

Ron Lee

Isn't there a difference between known icing, forecast probable icing,
and
forecast possible icing--in addition to the severity of said conditions?

Peter

Not to me. I won't fly anywhere near any of those.

Ron Lee

I should have been a bit more thorough in my post.

The question as asked was regulatory; but I had neglected to ask whether the
icing conditions became known as a result of the Cirrus pilot's pirep. A
search revealed that the icing conditions were predicted by the NWS,
although transmitted in a manner other than expected, and previously known
to ATC. All in all, I was left with more questions than answers and much
food for thought.

Peter

Peter Clark wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:11:57 -0700, unicate wrote:
Thank you. That was my question ... not whether or not a parachute
could sustain an airplane with ice, but whether or not a parachute
itself is susceptible to ice and resulting failure.

http://fl250.blogspot.com/2006_01_01_fl250_archive.html

Check the "Craziest Pirep Ever" section.

I searched the NTSB database for non-fatal Cirrus accidents that mentioned
icing and this looks like it may be the report for the above mentioned
accident:

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...18X00086&key=1

The narrative makes it clear the pilot had gonzo amounts of experience, yet
seemed oblivious to the on-board XM Satellite Radio AIRMET updates and
relied on weather reports that were out-of-date when he departed.

This pilot doesn't fit the alleged pattern of low-time but financially
well-off pilot that people are accusing Cirrus of marketing their product.

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 04:37:18 -0000, Jim Logajan
wrote:

Peter Clark wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:11:57 -0700, unicate wrote:
Thank you. That was my question ... not whether or not a parachute
could sustain an airplane with ice, but whether or not a parachute
itself is susceptible to ice and resulting failure.

http://fl250.blogspot.com/2006_01_01_fl250_archive.html

Check the "Craziest Pirep Ever" section.

I searched the NTSB database for non-fatal Cirrus accidents that mentioned
icing and this looks like it may be the report for the above mentioned
accident:

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...18X00086&key=1

The narrative makes it clear the pilot had gonzo amounts of experience, yet
seemed oblivious to the on-board XM Satellite Radio AIRMET updates and
relied on weather reports that were out-of-date when he departed.

This pilot doesn't fit the alleged pattern of low-time but financially
well-off pilot that people are accusing Cirrus of marketing their product.

Just for the record, I was only addressing the question of whether a
parachute would deal with being pulled in icing and getting the
aircraft back down in one piece, I'm not going anywhere near the
marketing debate.

And of course we now have a sample of exactly one where it's known
that there was severe icing and a chute was popped - who knows if the
next one would be as successful...