Light twins not using contra-rotating propellers

Neil Gould writes:

The question becomes which options a buyer might find more attractive,
for example would you prefer 3-axis trim or better avionics and moving
map GPS?

How about a three-axis autopilot with three-axis trim?

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Stefan writes:

The most simple solution would be the possibility to trim all
three axis.

Hmm ... is trim in all three axes uncommon? The Baron has aileron,
elevator, and rudder trim.

On the more expensive level (much more expensive, I would guess), you
can overcome the P-factor effects by using two contra-rotating coaxial
propellors. This would not only overcome the effects of the P-factor,
but also those caused by torque. Kamov helicopters are an example of
such a design.

With a single powerplant turning in one direction, there would still
be some residual torque from the engine itself.

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Mxsmanic schrieb:

Hmm ... is trim in all three axes uncommon? The Baron has aileron,
elevator, and rudder trim.

We were talking about singles. Of course, you can always fly the baron
on one engine...

With a single powerplant turning in one direction, there would still
be some residual torque from the engine itself.

Yawn. You're talking to a former Moto Guzzi driver.

Stefan

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I consider the effects of
P-factor and torque to be design defects.

By your standards, are bicycles poorly designed because they are unstable at
slow speeds?

Steve Foley writes:

By your standards, are bicycles poorly designed because they are unstable at
slow speeds?

They aren't unstable at slow speeds.

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Steve Foley writes:

By your standards, are bicycles poorly designed because they are unstable
at
slow speeds?

They aren't unstable at slow speeds.

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I see you know about as much about bicycles as you do about airplanes

Steve Foley writes:

I see you know about as much about bicycles as you do about airplanes

I think I know slightly more about airplanes, but I do know the basic
principles of bicycles.

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Steve Foley writes:

I see you know about as much about bicycles as you do about airplanes

I think I know slightly more about airplanes, but I do know the basic
principles of bicycles.


When you approach stop, a bicycle will fall over to one side or the other.
(unless yours still has training wheels).

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