Beware travelers with bratty kids

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 00:13:16 -0800, "G. Sylvester"
wrote:

First off, the mother called the Flight Attendants as stewardess. She
might as well had called them whores. Ok, maybe not that bad but it is
demeaning and the term steward/ess has been out of use for a couple of
decades. She should learn the right name.

It is.

I've been flying since they had fans on the front. They will always be
stews and stewardesses, just Oshkosh will always be "Oshkosh and not
Airventure

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:51:57 GMT, "Steve Foley"
wrote:

"john smith" wrote in message
...

Everyones problems were solved. While the parents may not have been happy,
they received sufficient time to get the child under control before the
next one.

But......

They were not permitted to board another flight within 24 hours, and the
airline did not return their luggage or carseat.

They should have charged them storage.


Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On 24 Jan 2007 11:56:46 -0800, "george" wrote:



On Jan 25, 7:18 am, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:
It is the best news I've heard about airline travel. But
why did they refund the money after they boarded the flight
and caused the disruption.

"Kingfish" wrote in oglegroups.com...
| Can't get your kid to behave on a plane? There's always
Trailways...
|
|http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16773655/?GT1=8921
|

Our national carrier won't allow children to be seated anywhere close
to unrelated males....

I think that's unaccompanied children

OTOH I'd prefer they put them on the other end of the plane.
I've raised two batches of kids and the grand kids are almost out of
highschool. I've paid my dues.

And for a minute there some people were unhappy with such a good idea
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:16:57 -0500, Jake Brodsky
wrote:

Kingfish wrote:
Can't get your kid to behave on a plane? There's always Trailways...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16773655/?GT1=8921

I'm appalled at how many of you were cheering AirTran on for their
behavior. I'm a father of three typically well behaved children.
snip

I'd have given the parents a few minutes to calm the kid down. It makes
for better press...

They had already given them 15 minutes. That is far more than I'd
give. The airline has a responsibility to the passengers to get them
to the next stop and make connections if possible. If said kid causes
a delay and some one misses a connection that costs a lot of money and
more agrivation. The airline did the right thing althoug I agree they
could have used a bit more tact. As I said in another post. I'm
almost to the grand kids stage. I paid my dues and should not have to
listen to some one elses kid misbehaving no matter how much energy
they have.


Jake Brodsky
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:30:52 -0800, C J Campbell
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:16:57 -0800, Jake Brodsky wrote
(in article ):

Kingfish wrote:
Can't get your kid to behave on a plane? There's always Trailways...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16773655/?GT1=8921

I'm appalled at how many of you were cheering AirTran on for their
behavior. I'm a father of three typically well behaved children.

Perhaps most of you prefer not to remember, but kids have energy: LOTS
of energy. Yes, my kids do sit still on aircraft. I've taught them
very well how to behave in airports and on board an airplane. They also
have practice from long road trips. They've done well --even my three
year old.


The parents had a few minutes. They also were given a refund, a free flight
the next day, and free round-trip tickets to anywhere the airline goes. And
still the father acts like a spoiled brat who believes that everyone else
should wait on him. Well, you see where the daughter gets it from.

Don't forget the part where he told the gate attendent she should stop
talking now. She should have said, no, I'm just getting started.


Heck, you get all that for a 3 year old's tantrum, flying my grandkids to
Orlando might be profitable... :-)

Good Gawd no. Mine are teen agers. The passengers and crew might
handel it well, but I don't know if I could. :-))

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

It's a really incredible coincidence that all the FAA's careful
scientific research produced figures that always came out to nice
round numbers of hours. Who would have thought that the ideal
limitation for a year would just happen to be exactly 1000 hours?

--
Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.

Grumman-581 wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:50:27 +0000, in
, B A R R Y wrote:
Imagine how that kid might have acted for the entire flight? G

Before or after the sweat sock and duct tape?

New product idea!

A kit, similar to a first aid kit, containing duct tape, ty-wraps, an
old sock, and maybe a ball gag (in the first class version), neatly
packed and mounted near each flight attendant station.

You read it here first!

BOS has short runways
"Roger" wrote in message
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| On 24 Jan 2007 15:18:47 -0800, "Jay Honeck"

| wrote:
|
|
| I wonder if the pilots had to trim the aircraft to
compensate for the
| load.
|
| On an airliner? Nah.
|
| This *is* a serious issue, however. I spent several hours
on a flight
| to Atlanta seated in the last row of seats (the ones
where the ceiling
| curves over your head) next to a guy who was the size of
two of me.
|
| I liked riding DC-9s and their climb rate, but I heard
people complain
| about noise and vibration. I couldn't figure out what
they were
| talking about on a "9". THEN I had the privilege of
taking a wait
| listing out of Boston for O'Hare. (I should have waited
for the next
| day as the stay would have been more entertaining) At any
rate I had
| the outside seat in the row with no window and the seat
back wouldn't
| move. One seat farther back and I'd have had a private
room. I
| thought I was on a Gray Hound buss. It sounded like one,
it vibrated
| like one, and it even smelled like one.
|
| But as to the W&B. I flew out of Boston this time on a
DC10. This was
| in the days before they limited carryon. Mine was a
shoulder bag about
| the size of a duffle bag and just as heavy. It would just
fit in the
| overhead if you worked really hard. I don't think there
was an empty
| seat. Of course being packed in like sardines IIRC, we
were all
| overjoyed to hear the announcement "You all will be glad
to hear we
| are number 57 in line to depart" This was out of Logan.
At any rate
| I was kinda glad we had to burn off fuel for over an hour
when we took
| off. It seemed as if we were getting light on the gear
almost half
| way down the runway. We finally started to bounce along on
the gear as
| we kept slowly accelerating. Finally the nose came up,
but I could
| feel the tail kinda tuck under. Any one who has ever felt
over
| rotation knows that feeling. At that point I must have
grabbed the
| arm rests as the guy beside me asked if I was OK. I
squeaked out "I'm
| fine" and then checked for finger prints in the arm rests.
We went
| between the cranes off the end of the runway as we cleared
the
| buildings. I have never seen a commercial flight clear the
end of the
| runway lower than that except for a DC-6 a longggg time
ago. I was at
| the end of the runway that time and saw his tires hit the
tops of the
| grass and weeds. I know they have checks on the weight of
passengers
| and baggage but I'll swear that DC-10 was overloaded.
|
| At any rate a couple minutes later the guy asked me
something and I
| replied that sometimes it's better not to know what's
going on. He
| didn't ask any more questions.
|
| When we got to Cleveland I was behind schedule due to the
storm we had
| just flown over, around, and through had knocked out the
RADAR. One
| nice young woman (pretty too IIRC) offered to help by
getting my
| carryon down. I hollered "don't" as I reached from behind
her to catch
| the bag just as she pulled the bag out of the overhead. We
both went
| over the armrest behind me with her ending up in my lap
and the bag
| over her lap. I sure was glad she though it was funny.
Made the whole
| trip worthwhile. (We had to wait until some kind soul
helped move the
| bag.)
|
| Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
| (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
| www.rogerhalstead.com

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
news
Now, on the other hand, if the problem that someone has is just a flat,
I'm less likely to help them since I figure that if you own a car you
should know how to change a flat...

When my wife had a flat tire a few years back, on I-25 between Colo. Springs
and Pueblo, four guys on motorcycles stopped to help. She was a bit freaked
out and kept her 40S&W handy as they walked up.

The head of the bunch took out his ID, and showed it through the window.

It was four guys from 4th Infantry Division at Fort Carson.

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:50:27 +0000, in
, B A R R Y wrote:
Imagine how that kid might have acted for the entire flight? G

Before or after the sweat sock and duct tape?

A few years back I was flying from Denver to Miami. Due to the miles I used
to do on the airlines, I was on a first class upgrade.

One row back and on the other side of the aisle was fellow, evidently named
'Josh', escorting his elderly father to Miami.

The old man had Turrets Syndrome (or something) and spent the entire flight
YELLING, "Josh, where are you?", "Josh, where is the (something or
other)"....

On and on, again and again, every six to ten seconds....for 1800 miles and
four hours.