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  #121  
Old January 26th 07, 03:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow
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"Roger" wrote in message
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Imagine how that kid might have acted for the entire flight? G


Check the trailers. In addition to the68% that sided with the airline,
there are OVER 700 PAGES of comments with only a rare one agreeing
with the parents.

I particularly liked the one from the woman who said she had to make
an emergency trip so stopped at the airport pharmacy, bought a bottle
of Benadril (sp?) and gave her kid a swig before getting on the plane.
Kid was nice and peaceful for the flight. :-))


With our kids, it was peppermint schnapps.

We also used that when they were teething (recommended by our family doctor
at the time, an older fellow in his 70's). Happiest teethers you ever saw
(but didn't hear).


  #122  
Old January 26th 07, 03:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Roger" wrote

I particularly liked the one from the woman who said she had to make
an emergency trip so stopped at the airport pharmacy, bought a bottle
of Benadril (sp?) and gave her kid a swig before getting on the plane.
Kid was nice and peaceful for the flight. :-))


I know doctors who recommend this, and do this with their own children,
when necessary. No harm is done.

Less trauma for the child, and others around the child.

I would go with the view that the behavior was learned, and enabled by how
the child was raised. It is too late, to try to change behavior for one
instance, when it is allowed all along, in earlier times.


Jim,

Would those parents be some of those who don't give a **** about their kids
school, either?


  #123  
Old January 26th 07, 03:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Matt Barrow writes:

When my wife had a flat tire a few years back, on I-25 between Colo. Springs
and Pueblo, four guys on motorcycles stopped to help. She was a bit freaked
out and kept her 40S&W handy as they walked up.


If I stopped to help someone with a flat tire and she had a Smith &
Wesson handy, I'd be freaked out, too.

The head of the bunch took out his ID, and showed it through the window.

It was four guys from 4th Infantry Division at Fort Carson.


Is that good or bad?

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  #124  
Old January 26th 07, 03:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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PS. I hate the new Google Group interface. Judging from the feedback
in their help group, everyone hates it. No posting preview, small
space to view, etc. Woof.


Me, too. I had really grown to like the features of Google Groups, but
now they've butchered the user interface.


It was even better when it was Dejanews.

Very true. It often seems that most progress isn't progress at all.

Peter


  #125  
Old January 26th 07, 03:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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| But as to the W&B. I flew out of Boston this time on a
DC10. This was
| in the days before they limited carryon. Mine was a
shoulder bag about
| the size of a duffle bag and just as heavy. It would just
fit in the
| overhead if you worked really hard. I don't think there
was an empty
| seat. Of course being packed in like sardines IIRC, we
were all
| overjoyed to hear the announcement "You all will be glad
to hear we
| are number 57 in line to depart" This was out of Logan.
At any rate
| I was kinda glad we had to burn off fuel for over an hour
when we took
| off. It seemed as if we were getting light on the gear
almost half
| way down the runway. We finally started to bounce along on
the gear as
| we kept slowly accelerating. Finally the nose came up,
but I could
| feel the tail kinda tuck under. Any one who has ever felt
over
| rotation knows that feeling. At that point I must have
grabbed the
| arm rests as the guy beside me asked if I was OK. I
squeaked out "I'm
| fine" and then checked for finger prints in the arm rests.
We went
| between the cranes off the end of the runway as we cleared
the
| buildings. I have never seen a commercial flight clear the
end of the
| runway lower than that except for a DC-6 a longggg time
ago. I was at
| the end of the runway that time and saw his tires hit the
tops of the
| grass and weeds. I know they have checks on the weight of
passengers
| and baggage but I'll swear that DC-10 was overloaded.
|
| At any rate a couple minutes later the guy asked me
something and I
| replied that sometimes it's better not to know what's
going on. He
| didn't ask any more questions.
|


BOS has short runways


Those old DC-10s and L-1011s were really lead sleds when they were full, and
rode on a few were we seemed to gradually gain speed for a looong time and
then rotate for a while before lifting off about nine tenths of the way down
the runway.

OTOH, personally, I'm betting on overweight, even after burning off a lot of
fuel.

Peter
(In the last row of seats, I could almost hear the pilot behind us--honking
his horn. ;-)))


  #126  
Old January 26th 07, 04:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gig 601XL Builder
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder writes:

And what would you fire them for?


Being late, and thereby costing the airline more than they are worth.


There was NOTHING in the original post that claimed the pilots were late.


  #127  
Old January 26th 07, 05:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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("B A R R Y" wrote)
That is ALWAYS the way it starts (see: "BUT IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN").


Right-on! The good ol' "Kid Card" gets played. G

The Kid Card can justify anything the player wants, if played correctly.



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Premarital SEX: It's for the Children


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  #128  
Old January 26th 07, 10:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In article 11Nth.2595$2n.2338@trndny06,
"Steve Foley" wrote:

They were not permitted to board another flight within 24 hours, and the
airline did not return their luggage or carseat.


according to a news report, the family refused anything but a direct non-stop
flight.

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  #129  
Old January 27th 07, 03:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Roger wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 00:13:16 -0800, "G. Sylvester"
wrote:
First off, the mother called the Flight Attendants as stewardess. She
might as well had called them whores. Ok, maybe not that bad but it is
demeaning and the term steward/ess has been out of use for a couple of
decades. She should learn the right name.


It is.

I've been flying since they had fans on the front. They will always be
stews and stewardesses, just Oshkosh will always be "Oshkosh and not
Airventure


Roger - I have plenty of respect for the things you have to say but in
this case, the term is wrong. It is nonetheless common and somewhat
offensive. Kind of like calling an Asian person an Oriental. It's
wrong and offensive. In NY where I grew up, everyone called Asians as
Orientals. it wasn't until I moved to California I learned that it was
wrong. History won't make it right.

Gerald
  #130  
Old January 27th 07, 04:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
john smith
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In article ,
"G. Sylvester" wrote:

Roger wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 00:13:16 -0800, "G. Sylvester"
wrote:
First off, the mother called the Flight Attendants as stewardess. She
might as well had called them whores. Ok, maybe not that bad but it is
demeaning and the term steward/ess has been out of use for a couple of
decades. She should learn the right name.


It is.

I've been flying since they had fans on the front. They will always be
stews and stewardesses, just Oshkosh will always be "Oshkosh and not
Airventure


Roger - I have plenty of respect for the things you have to say but in
this case, the term is wrong. It is nonetheless common and somewhat
offensive. Kind of like calling an Asian person an Oriental. It's
wrong and offensive. In NY where I grew up, everyone called Asians as
Orientals. it wasn't until I moved to California I learned that it was
wrong. History won't make it right.


What Gerald seems to be saying is... you need to learn political
correctness.
The problem is, you don't know which of their self-appointed "leaders"
to follow.
Remember, it's not polite to offend anyone, even if they deserve it.
 




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