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Old May 17th 07, 05:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 20:33:24 -0400, Bob Noel
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(of course, having more briefers would have eliminated the need for
the lawyers...)


But having a larger FSS staff wouldn't have provided the same
"savings" that was the alleged reason for FSS privatization. The
contractor's performance provides a mini-glimpse at the chaos ATC
privatization would cause. I wonder why we don't hear of the Part 121
carriers complaining about FSS delays. Could it be that the airlines
aren't experiencing them?

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Old May 17th 07, 10:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Marty Shapiro
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Larry Dighera wrote in
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 20:33:24 -0400, Bob Noel
wrote in
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(of course, having more briefers would have eliminated the need for
the lawyers...)


But having a larger FSS staff wouldn't have provided the same
"savings" that was the alleged reason for FSS privatization. The
contractor's performance provides a mini-glimpse at the chaos ATC
privatization would cause. I wonder why we don't hear of the Part 121
carriers complaining about FSS delays. Could it be that the airlines
aren't experiencing them?



They don't use FSS, so they don't care.

Several years ago, I had a tour of a major airlines maintenance
facility. On this tour, they showed us the trip package the pilots
received prior to their flights. This package contained a weather briefing
prepared by the airline's own certified weather people and if more
information was needed, the pilots could talk directly with the weather
people. For scheduled flights, flight plans were automatically entered into
the FAA's computers each day. Enroute, the pilots contact the company on
dedicated radio channels to get weather updates.

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Old May 17th 07, 11:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 08:31:06 GMT, Marty Shapiro
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They don't use FSS, so they don't care.

Several years ago, I had a tour of a major airlines maintenance
facility. On this tour, they showed us the trip package the pilots
received prior to their flights. This package contained a weather briefing
prepared by the airline's own certified weather people and if more
information was needed, the pilots could talk directly with the weather
people. For scheduled flights, flight plans were automatically entered into
the FAA's computers each day. Enroute, the pilots contact the company on
dedicated radio channels to get weather updates.


I had a feeling that was the case. It's like the oil companies
reaping carbon offset credits:


http://environment.newscientist.com/...uestioned.html
The market in carbon offsets, which allows companies to invest in
renewable energy as a way of mitigating their own greenhouse gas
emissions - almost doubled in 2006 to $5 billion, the World Bank
said on 2 May. According to a recent report in the London-based
Financial Times, some of that money is going to oil companies that
are simply pumping CO2 into oilfields to extract more oil. They
would have done this anyway, so profits from selling the credits
go straight into company coffers, with no benefit to new
carbon-saving schemes.

FSS Privatization is not in the public interest.
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Old May 18th 07, 04:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 17, 3:27 am, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Thu, 17 May 2007 08:31:06 GMT, Marty Shapiro
wrote in
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They don't use FSS, so they don't care.


Several years ago, I had a tour of a major airlines maintenance
facility. On this tour, they showed us the trip package the pilots
received prior to their flights. This package contained a weather briefing
prepared by the airline's own certified weather people and if more
information was needed, the pilots could talk directly with the weather
people. For scheduled flights, flight plans were automatically entered into
the FAA's computers each day. Enroute, the pilots contact the company on
dedicated radio channels to get weather updates.


I had a feeling that was the case. It's like the oil companies
reaping carbon offset credits:

http://environment.newscientist.com/...35-carbon-offs...
The market in carbon offsets, which allows companies to invest in
renewable energy as a way of mitigating their own greenhouse gas
emissions - almost doubled in 2006 to $5 billion, the World Bank
said on 2 May. According to a recent report in the London-based
Financial Times, some of that money is going to oil companies that
are simply pumping CO2 into oilfields to extract more oil. They
would have done this anyway, so profits from selling the credits
go straight into company coffers, with no benefit to new
carbon-saving schemes.

FSS Privatization is not in the public interest.


As if reducing CO2 has any real benefit... NOT!

 




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