Bend over, folks...

Fargo wrote:
"Rich S." wrote in message
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bedroom/retirement/sorta rural area. Lots of retired military around here.
I wouldn't wear a burnoose to church though, stand up screaming "Allah
Akbar" and pull out an AK. Life expectancy would be measured in seconds.


Oh, yeah that type of stuff happens all the time. Grow up. You don't need a
gun, you need a clue.



Come on, Fargo, you NEVER need a gun - until you need one real bad...

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
ink.net...
Fargo wrote:
"Rich S." wrote in message
...

bedroom/retirement/sorta rural area. Lots of retired military around
here.
I wouldn't wear a burnoose to church though, stand up screaming "Allah
Akbar" and pull out an AK. Life expectancy would be measured in seconds.


Oh, yeah that type of stuff happens all the time. Grow up. You don't
need a
gun, you need a clue.



Come on, Fargo, you NEVER need a gun - until you need one real bad...

True.

"scud" wrote in message
...
In this state, you can't refuse to
allow a cop to search your car, including the trunk.

Is this in the US? Isn't that against the US Constitution? I thought they
needed probable cause to search your car. Or was that one of the rights we
gave up for the war on drugs?

Dennis Johnson

Ahhh... senseless platitudes, where would we be without them. Makes it easy
to believe almost any rubbish.

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
ink.net...
Fargo wrote:
"Rich S." wrote in message
...

bedroom/retirement/sorta rural area. Lots of retired military around
here. I wouldn't wear a burnoose to church though, stand up screaming
"Allah Akbar" and pull out an AK. Life expectancy would be measured in
seconds.


Oh, yeah that type of stuff happens all the time. Grow up. You don't need
a gun, you need a clue.

Come on, Fargo, you NEVER need a gun - until you need one real bad...

Previously, your automobile was considered an extension of your home.

Not so anymore. They want to know what's hidden in the trunk. Yes,
you can thank the drug war for that. If you refuse, and you're ticking
them off like claiming constitutional rights and stuff, they will
arrest you for refusing to obey the lawful command of a police officer
and impound your car to search it for evidence. It's against the law
to refuse.

If you're lucky, wealthy, or your car is worth a lot, assuming they
find no incriminating evidence, they won't hold your car to search for
evidence so long that the towing and storage charges, which are allowed
for some reason to be as high as the payday loan business ($150 tow,
$50/75 a day storage), won't add up so much that the car isn't worth
bailing out. This is done to poor people all the time and they laugh
about it down at the cop shop because they figure nobody who looks or
lives like a lowlife (in their opinion, even though poverty is not a
crime) is without guilt, so they'll get you this way instead of
another.

The authorities are supposed to pay storage when the car is held for
evidence, but you have to sue them to get them to do it if they say
they're not paying and most people simply can't afford the lawsuit and
no lawyer takes these on spec. Lessons? Be wealthy, have a good
lawyer, and open your trunk when asked.

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In article , Dennis
Johnson wrote:

"scud" wrote in message
...
In this state, you can't refuse to
allow a cop to search your car, including the trunk.

Is this in the US? Isn't that against the US Constitution? I thought they
needed probable cause to search your car. Or was that one of the rights we
gave up for the war on drugs?

Dennis Johnson

Fargo wrote:
Ahhh... senseless platitudes, where would we be without them. Makes it easy
to believe almost any rubbish.


..ke, huh?
Don't know ehre that is,

But I'm pretty sure it's not Texas...

"scud" wrote in message
...

Previously, your automobile was considered an extension of your home.

Not so anymore. They want to know what's hidden in the trunk. Yes,
you can thank the drug war for that. If you refuse, and you're ticking
them off like claiming constitutional rights and stuff, they will
arrest you for refusing to obey the lawful command of a police officer
and impound your car to search it for evidence. It's against the law
to refuse.

If you're lucky, wealthy, or your car is worth a lot, assuming they
find no incriminating evidence, they won't hold your car to search for
evidence so long that the towing and storage charges, which are allowed
for some reason to be as high as the payday loan business ($150 tow,
$50/75 a day storage), won't add up so much that the car isn't worth
bailing out. This is done to poor people all the time and they laugh
about it down at the cop shop because they figure nobody who looks or
lives like a lowlife (in their opinion, even though poverty is not a
crime) is without guilt, so they'll get you this way instead of
another.

The authorities are supposed to pay storage when the car is held for
evidence, but you have to sue them to get them to do it if they say
they're not paying and most people simply can't afford the lawsuit and
no lawyer takes these on spec. Lessons? Be wealthy, have a good
lawyer, and open your trunk when asked.

=-=-=-=-=

In article , Dennis
Johnson wrote:

"scud" wrote in message
...
In this state, you can't refuse to
allow a cop to search your car, including the trunk.

Is this in the US? Isn't that against the US Constitution? I thought
they
needed probable cause to search your car. Or was that one of the rights
we
gave up for the war on drugs?

Dennis Johnson

It's a States Rights issue. Different States have different laws.

"Fargo" wrote in message
...

Oh, yeah that type of stuff happens all the time. Grow up. You don't need
a gun, you need a clue.

I won't bother to recant or reference all of the incidents of mass murder
that have occurred within the U.S. in the past few years - many of them
targeted towards locations where the victims were unarmed due to ordinance
or custom. If you are unaware of these it is obvious who doesn't have a
clue.

Childish outbursts of personal insults are a *real* sign of maturity. It's
bedtime now. Turn off daddy's computer and brush your teeth. Night night.

Rich S.

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
nk.net...
Fargo wrote:
Ahhh... senseless platitudes, where would we be without them. Makes it
easy
to believe almost any rubbish.


.ke, huh?
Don't know ehre that is,

But I'm pretty sure it's not Texas...

No, indeed! It's Kenya.

On Jun 17, 8:22 pm, Alan Baker wrote:
In article ,

"Montblack" wrote:
("jl" wrote)
I saw him a few weeks later about the same time and he waved at me. I
think I taught the little gnatsie a lesson.

The cop was right, you were wrong - with that ....."attitude".

Paul-Mont

Nope.

He was right and the cop was wrong.


....

Can't we all just get along?

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FF