Israeli Air Force to lose Middle East Air Superiority Capability to the Saudis in the near future

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This was acknowleged the day it happened by US Intellegence as well as
photo
shots that appeared in the NY Times released by the IAF to the press. The
building was the right building and after the war even Syria admitted it
happend. It is you that are full of Bull ****.

Aha. Interesting.

Not really Tom since you excel in the art of BS. Don't you have some pro-Iranian/anti- Israeli rally to attend someplace? Or do you send your money to Saudi Arabian charities in the hope they will reach Hamas?
Tehran should be a smoking ruin by now, given it is a terror
sponsoring state and lying about its underground nuclear program...
but I guess you are happy that both the US and Israeli are restrained
for the moment- the Israelis caught up in 36 months of Intifada, us
bogged down in both Afghanistan and Iraq.
I only live for the day one of the two or both strike Iran and shoot
their aircraft out of the skies. Better yet, let Iran fire a salvo of
IRBMs at Israel and watch as Tehran disappears in a mushroom cloud.

Rob

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This was acknowleged the day it happened by US Intellegence as well as
photo
shots that appeared in the NY Times released by the IAF to the press.
The
building was the right building and after the war even Syria admitted
it
happend. It is you that are full of Bull ****.

Aha. Interesting.

Not really Tom since you excel in the art of BS. Don't you have some
pro-Iranian/anti- Israeli rally to attend someplace? Or do you send your
money to Saudi Arabian charities in the hope they will reach Hamas?
Tehran should be a smoking ruin by now, given it is a terror
sponsoring state and lying about its underground nuclear program...
but I guess you are happy that both the US and Israeli are restrained
for the moment- the Israelis caught up in 36 months of Intifada, us
bogged down in both Afghanistan and Iraq.
I only live for the day one of the two or both strike Iran and shoot
their aircraft out of the skies. Better yet, let Iran fire a salvo of
IRBMs at Israel and watch as Tehran disappears in a mushroom cloud.

Yes. Stupids are everywhere.

Tom Cooper
Co-Author:
Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988:
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
and,
Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat:
http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/t...hp/title=S6585

Tom Cooper wrote:
"robert arndt" wrote in message
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"Tom Cooper" wrote in message
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"Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" wrote in
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This was acknowleged the day it happened by US Intellegence as
well as
photo
shots that appeared in the NY Times released by the IAF to the
press.
The
building was the right building and after the war even Syria
admitted
it
happend. It is you that are full of Bull ****.

Aha. Interesting.

Not really Tom since you excel in the art of BS. Don't you have some
pro-Iranian/anti- Israeli rally to attend someplace? Or do you send
your money to Saudi Arabian charities in the hope they will reach
Hamas?
Tehran should be a smoking ruin by now, given it is a terror
sponsoring state and lying about its underground nuclear program...
but I guess you are happy that both the US and Israeli are restrained
for the moment- the Israelis caught up in 36 months of Intifada, us
bogged down in both Afghanistan and Iraq.
I only live for the day one of the two or both strike Iran and shoot
their aircraft out of the skies. Better yet, let Iran fire a salvo of
IRBMs at Israel and watch as Tehran disappears in a mushroom cloud.

Yes. Stupids are everywhere.

Tom Cooper
Co-Author:
Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988:
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
and,
Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat:
http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/t...hp/title=S6585

Can anyone tell me what "IRBMS" are. I know about ABMS and ICBMS, and
S.R.B.M. as well as M.R.B.MS are but never read anything till here about
"IRBMS".

ABM = Anti Balistic missile with the purpose to destroy an inbound missle
before it hits the target.
ICBM = Inter-Contental Balistic Missile - the mainstay of the Cold War for
years. They have enough range to hit any target inside any distant nation.
They do mostly by reaching a high altitude appagee and flying over the North
pole for the old USSR, and Over the Pacific for China, while over the
Atlantic for Europe and Africa.
South America (the farther reaches would be reached by direct path flights
over the Equater from our more Southern Silos.

MRBM - Medium Range Balistic Missiles are incapable of flying the distances
between the Old Soviet Block, US or US and China. The Soviets in the early
1960s placed this type in Cuba and from there put our south and Eastern
States in range with a less than 20 minute warning at most. Since they are
fired from closer the time from a launch to detonation is much shorter.
That is their main value.

SRBM are short range missiles, to that point they fall under Tactical or
actual Battlefield Weapons. Very low in range but hits the target in under
5 minutes. No time given the enemy to react. However the drawback is that
your own troops may be exposed to the Blast, heat and radiation from the
detonation as well. The US at one time proposed to use these if West
Germany was invaded to destroy the invading army. Like the City of Way we
would destroy half of the area to save the area. Play on a General's words
as the US had almost destroyed the city to force out the last of the VC in
the Tet Offensive.

What is a "IRBM". Jane's Does not list it at all so what is it some ray gun
or what? ROFLH at the person that warned about them.


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"Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" wrote in message
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Can anyone tell me what "IRBMS" are. I know about ABMS and ICBMS, and
S.R.B.M. as well as M.R.B.MS are but never read anything till here about
"IRBMS".

IRBM = Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile.

It's the class of ballistic missiles with a range somewhere between 1.500
and 3.000km. They are not "intercontinental", but also not "tactical" or
"short range".

Tom Cooper
Co-Author:
Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988:
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
and,
Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat:
http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/t...hp/title=S6585

Tom Cooper wrote:
"Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" wrote in
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Can anyone tell me what "IRBMS" are. I know about ABMS and ICBMS,
and S.R.B.M. as well as M.R.B.MS are but never read anything till
here about "IRBMS".

IRBM = Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile.

It's the class of ballistic missiles with a range somewhere between
1.500 and 3.000km. They are not "intercontinental", but also not
"tactical" or "short range".

Tom Cooper
Co-Author:
Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988:
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
and,
Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat:
http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/t...hp/title=S6585

Then why does Jane's Catalog of weapons held by all nations by nation and by
catagory not mention them?

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On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 17:04:20 -0400, "Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman"
wrote:

Tom Cooper wrote:
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Can anyone tell me what "IRBMS" are. I know about ABMS and ICBMS,
and S.R.B.M. as well as M.R.B.MS are but never read anything till
here about "IRBMS".

IRBM = Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile.

It's the class of ballistic missiles with a range somewhere between
1.500 and 3.000km. They are not "intercontinental", but also not
"tactical" or "short range".

Then why does Jane's Catalog of weapons held by all nations by nation and by
catagory not mention them?

Because you're not using it properly. Get your copy of Janes Strategic
Weapons Systems off the shelf and start reading, there's quite a lot
of data on IRBMs in there, plus the contents of all the strategic
weapons treaties from SALT 1 onwards.

Peter Kemp

Peter Kemp wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 17:04:20 -0400, "Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman"
wrote:

Tom Cooper wrote:
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Can anyone tell me what "IRBMS" are. I know about ABMS and ICBMS,
and S.R.B.M. as well as M.R.B.MS are but never read anything till
here about "IRBMS".

IRBM = Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile.

It's the class of ballistic missiles with a range somewhere between
1.500 and 3.000km. They are not "intercontinental", but also not
"tactical" or "short range".

Then why does Jane's Catalog of weapons held by all nations by
nation and by catagory not mention them?

Because you're not using it properly. Get your copy of Janes Strategic
Weapons Systems off the shelf and start reading, there's quite a lot
of data on IRBMs in there, plus the contents of all the strategic
weapons treaties from SALT 1 onwards.

Peter Kemp

Funny the latest copy I have the update for calls them Medium Range not
Intermediate, perhaps they are using both terms based on the person that
does that particular entry. It was also called Medium Range when they all
the sources about the Cuban Missile Crisis describe the class of Missiles
being set up by the Soviets there and when they talk of the old Jupiter
sites in Turkey of that time.


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"Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" writes:
Tom Cooper wrote:
"Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" wrote in
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Can anyone tell me what "IRBMS" are. I know about ABMS and ICBMS,
and S.R.B.M. as well as M.R.B.MS are but never read anything till
here about "IRBMS".

IRBM = Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile.

It's the class of ballistic missiles with a range somewhere between
1.500 and 3.000km. They are not "intercontinental", but also not
"tactical" or "short range".

Then why does Jane's Catalog of weapons held by all nations by nation and by
catagory not mention them?

Because Jane's is but a pale shadow of its former august self. As a
useful reference it has gone very far downhill in the last 10 years or
so. I suspect that one of heir problems has been that they split
themselves much to thin in that timeframe, producing over-specialized
volumes that basically parrot the manucafturer's press releases with
very littel cogent analysis.
(Now, really - Is "Jane's All the World's Air Freight Cargo Containers
really worth $150.00 US per volume? Should I be saving my hard-earned
for "All the World's Armoured Fighting Vehicle Track End Connectors?"

I gave up & went with Brassey's instead. Much more information, and
much less pretence.

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Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 00:03:05 -0400, (Peter
Stickney) wrote:

I gave up & went with Brassey's instead. Much more information, and
much less pretence.

Yes, but what's the price for Brassey's like in the US?

On 17 Sep 2003 08:41:16 -0700, robert arndt wrote:

Tehran should be a smoking ruin by now,
[...]
I only live for the day [when I can] watch as Tehran disappears in
a mushroom cloud.

When are you growing the toothbrush mustache, Bob?

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