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Israeli Air Force to lose Middle East Air Superiority Capability to the Saudis in the near future



 
 
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Old September 20th 03, 01:08 AM
Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman
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They flew several sorties over Port Alexandria well to the East of
Ciaro

BTW, Matt,
since when is Alexandria east of Cairo?

I tought on the History Channel they try to teach history, not
re-draw the maps....


snip


If you read up on those raids the planes stayed over target for a
long

time.
The premise falsly made was that the IAF did not fly that many hours
to

need
to have pilots to rotate inorder to rest.


Aha. I see.

And this places Alexandria due east of Cairo?

Tom Cooper
Co-Author:
Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988:
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
and,
Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat:
http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/t...hp/title=S6585


No but it does say they flew longer missions than you will admit to Jack!

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Old September 20th 03, 01:35 AM
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"Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" wrote in message
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Tom Cooper wrote:
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Tom Cooper wrote:
"Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" wrote in
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They flew several sorties over Port Alexandria well to the East of
Ciaro

BTW, Matt,
since when is Alexandria east of Cairo?

I tought on the History Channel they try to teach history, not
re-draw the maps....


snip


If you read up on those raids the planes stayed over target for a
long

time.
The premise falsly made was that the IAF did not fly that many hours
to

need
to have pilots to rotate inorder to rest.


Aha. I see.

And this places Alexandria due east of Cairo?


No but it does say they flew longer missions than you will admit to Jack!



Jack, huh? How comes this? You said Alexandria is east of Cairo, not me...


But, OK. So, when did they fly such missions? In 1967 or 1973?

In 1967, namely, they flew attacks against places like Aswan, far in
southern Egypt, or against H-3, in western Iraq. That's much further away
from Israel than Alexandria (especially if you place it east of Cairo) -
except you put Aswan and H-3 also east of Cairo too, of course....

In 1973, however, they never flew over Alexandria (reagardless if it's east
of Cairo or not).

Tom Cooper
Co-Author:
Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988:
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
and,
Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat:
http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/t...hp/title=S6585


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Old September 20th 03, 03:39 PM
Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman
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Tom Cooper wrote:
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Tom Cooper wrote:
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Tom Cooper wrote:
"Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" wrote in
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They flew several sorties over Port Alexandria well to the East
of Ciaro

BTW, Matt,
since when is Alexandria east of Cairo?

I tought on the History Channel they try to teach history, not
re-draw the maps....

snip


If you read up on those raids the planes stayed over target for a
long
time.
The premise falsly made was that the IAF did not fly that many
hours to
need
to have pilots to rotate inorder to rest.

Aha. I see.

And this places Alexandria due east of Cairo?


No but it does say they flew longer missions than you will admit to
Jack!



Jack, huh? How comes this? You said Alexandria is east of Cairo, not
me...


But, OK. So, when did they fly such missions? In 1967 or 1973?

In 1967, namely, they flew attacks against places like Aswan, far in
southern Egypt, or against H-3, in western Iraq. That's much further
away from Israel than Alexandria (especially if you place it east of
Cairo) - except you put Aswan and H-3 also east of Cairo too, of
course....

In 1973, however, they never flew over Alexandria (reagardless if
it's east of Cairo or not).

Tom Cooper
Co-Author:
Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988:
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
and,
Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat:
http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/t...hp/title=S6585


Find that post liar. I never said that it was east only a longer mission.
Put up or shut up! You are a liar sob.

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Old September 20th 03, 04:00 PM
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"Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" wrote in message
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Find that post liar. I never said that it was east only a longer

mission.
Put up or shut up! You are a liar sob.


This is your own sentence:

They flew several sorties over Port Alexandria well to the East of Ciaro


I'm sorry that all the maps in my posession show Alexandria "well" to the
north-west of Cairo... But then, I'm a liar, and a SOB, and probably
everybody who ever printed any maps of that area too... Got to be some kind
of Egyptian conspiration: they put Alexandria north-west of Cairo on all of
the maps world-wide, while the city is "well to the east" of Cairo... I'm
sure not even Alexander would find the place any more, it's that well
concealled...

BTW, could you, a honest, knowledgeable, decent, and kind person as you are,
answer at least one of all the questions I asked you about?

For example, I'd like to learn, when where Soviet freighters attacked by
Israeli fighters while in Alexandria (regardless if east or west of Cairo),
during the Six Day War or in 1973, because this is an interesting topic for
me, you seem not to be able to agree with yourself when this happened, and I
never heard about this incident.

Oh, and, it would be good if you could supply this information before dying
of heart attack.

Tom Cooper
Co-Author:
Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988:
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
and,
Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat:
http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/t...hp/title=S6585


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Old September 20th 03, 09:56 PM
Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman
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Tom Cooper wrote:
"Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" wrote in
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Find that post liar. I never said that it was east only a longer

mission.
Put up or shut up! You are a liar sob.


This is your own sentence:

They flew several sorties over Port Alexandria well to the East of
Ciaro


I'm sorry that all the maps in my posession show Alexandria "well" to
the north-west of Cairo... But then, I'm a liar, and a SOB, and
probably everybody who ever printed any maps of that area too... Got
to be some kind of Egyptian conspiration: they put Alexandria
north-west of Cairo on all of the maps world-wide, while the city is
"well to the east" of Cairo... I'm sure not even Alexander would find
the place any more, it's that well concealled...

BTW, could you, a honest, knowledgeable, decent, and kind person as
you are, answer at least one of all the questions I asked you about?

For example, I'd like to learn, when where Soviet freighters attacked
by Israeli fighters while in Alexandria (regardless if east or west
of Cairo), during the Six Day War or in 1973, because this is an
interesting topic for me, you seem not to be able to agree with
yourself when this happened, and I never heard about this incident.

Oh, and, it would be good if you could supply this information before
dying of heart attack.

Tom Cooper
Co-Author:
Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988:
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
and,
Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat:
http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/t...hp/title=S6585


I stand corrected on that one error. However it still stands that the
missions over it were of a long duration, where the same planes and pilots
stayed over the target area, the port, for more time than most missions and
the pilots had to have releif when they landed, while the planes had to
continue flying. What about that sir? You claimed that they did not fly
that much as to need it. Comment on that if you will.

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http://www.geocities.com/lord_haha_libeler/


 




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