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"Peter Dohm" wrote in message ... | | "Denny" wrote in message | ups.com... | On Jul 24, 12:20 am, "Richard Isakson" wrote: | "Matt Whiting" wrote ... | | | | | | cavelamb himself wrote: | | It is more fuel efficient to drive a pick-up truck with its tailgate | down, rather than up. | | Busted | | Driving with the tailgate down actually increased drag on the | pick-up | and caused it to consume fuel faster than the identical truck driven | with the tailgate up. It was later revealed that the closed tailgate | creates a locked vortex flow that created a smoother flow of air | over | the truck. With the tailgate down, the trapped vortex was dissipated | and | the drag increased. | | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBus...%29#Blown_Away | | I remember seeing a wind tunnel test on this many years ago (I think | in | the late 70s when I was an aerospace engineering student) long before | Mythbusters existed. However, there is no way you can convince some | people that this is a myth. They will argue to the death that they | gain | mileage with the tailgate down, however, the wind tunnel tests were | very | conclusive. A rotating vortex is established in the truck once you | get | above a fairly slow speed (I think 30 MPH or so) and this acts almost | like a large balloon in the bed of the truck and directs the airflow | over the tailgate. You can see this pretty easily from the smoke in | the | wind tunnel and the drag change was noticeable also. | | Not only do you not get better mileage with the tailgate down .... you | actually get worse mileage! Then again, most people can't even check | their MPG correctly... | | Matt | | YMMV! | | Rich- Hide quoted text - | | - Show quoted text - | | Paper material in the bed of my truck at 55mph rotates once or trwice | in that standing vortex then vanishes over the tailgate - never to be | seen again... | Any empty, plastic gas can left against the tailgate slides up against | the back of the cab - again that standing vortex... | Now, that the gate up has less drag overal still amazes me, in spite | of knowing what is theoretically happening... | | denny | | I, for one, am not convinced that a p/u has less drag with the gate | closed--although I concede that many trucks may gain a trivial benefit at | some particular speed. | | Their are just too many variables; including the shape of the cab, shape of | the nose, slope of the windshield, and length of the bed; to draw any | meaningful concludions from just one or two tests. In addition, the vortex | grows in size with increasing speed--so that the forward moving portion will | be nearer the back of the cab at lower speeds and may be aft of the tailgate | at very high speeds. However, a radically sloped nose and windshield may | cause the vortex to be much longer front to back at all speeds; the the | lengths of the cab and bed will have an effect. | | If I had to wager on the outcome of a *real* test of this issue, I would | guess that there would be a slight drag reduction (on average) with the | tailgate down or removed--especailly if there is any cross wind--and that a | bed cover (a/k/a tonneau) would do at least as well under *all* conditions. | | In any case, if you choose to run with the gate open or off, be sure to | secure your load! About 20 years ago, I personally watched a driver lose a | P&W Wasp Jr when he forgot it was there and mashed the accelerator. That | was a major "ah, darn"! | | Just my $0.02 | Peter This issue came up on the Toyota PU site some time back. One of the references was a university study that clearly showed that the mileage was better with the tail gate up. Here is a link showing no meaningful difference- http://www.scangauge.com/support/tailgate.shtml The university study also tested bed covers and bed caps. The best mileage was obtained with a cap that was cab high and had a rounded rear end that blended into the tailgate. While searching I found that in some states running with the tailgate down is technically against the law. -- OldPhart ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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